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Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by psd1 »

reedf1 wrote: post #34
xfactorial wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I some countries, however, this may penalize you, credit score wise or whatever. This option, in my opinion, should truly be the last resource, after exhausting (and documenting) every other route. Very important: public routes, like Twitter Support, even better (make sure every step is traceable if the only option left is, indeed, blocking debts on your credit card).

You haven't signed any agreement or opened any lines of credit - I would be amazed if there was any jurisdiction in the entire world where this would affect your credit.

Heuristically, that sounds naive. Actuaries do not typically think "oh, that's enough data". If Experian could track whether you iron your shirts, it too would show up in your credit score.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by Mordisquitos »

cm2187 wrote: post #37
bigiain wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My gmail account still has the "First off, welcome. And thanks for agreeing to help us test Gmail." mail in it from June 2004. The account itself is over 21 years old. I wonder if I'll get forced to age verify myself any time?

You are just a row in a database. Column can’t have nulls.

   SELECT
      id,
      full_name,
      IFNULL(age_verified, acc_created

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by close04 »

reedf1 wrote: post #31
cube00 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has a degree of seperation value stored on every account. Once the algorithm determines its been wronged it increases the radius so expect your household members and work colleagues accounts to be at risk when you try this.

bullshit - canceling the authorization will have no affect on your account at all, the subscription will just end.

Definitely not bullshit. I have a friend who was banned simply for returning a Pixel phone after accidentally ordering 2. Some automated mechanism flagged it as potential fraud and nothing worked to reverse the ban. Going to the bank to block payments, remove authorization, or God forbid, do a chargeback for the money they already took after banning you is playing Russian roulette with your Google account.

It's also the only way to stop Google from stealing your money short of going to a lawyer.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

tverbeure wrote: post #14
aquir wrote: post #5

Sad story but this has been written by an LLM (to original short story has been inflated by and LLM to turn into an "article"). Speak w/ your bank and ask them to block future charges - easy.

The thing is so unreadable one would think that it's a parody of an LLM article.

I'm curious about what actually happened, but I can'make it past the second section, the writing is so terrible.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by Vasbarlog »

lrks128 wrote: post #45

Did you or did you not publish AI "music" on YouTube? This half AI written rant looks like an angry Rathbun bot. It needs a summary. YouTube is clamping down on AI content because they know people hate it and leave YouTube. There is no money in generative AI. Google needs to advertise to humans and not to Rathbun. That is why Disney cancelled the Sora deal.

Disney cancelled the Sora deal because OpenAI cancelled Sora.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by paganel »

> I was told that if an account is linked to another account that receives copyright strikes,

I still remember how mad people were when that linkage between YT accounts and Google accounts took place, and, of course, it looks like they were right. Shitty behemoth of a company.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by nottorp »

ainiriand wrote: post #39
esperent wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last year our bakery business got blocked from Google Maps. Reason: Your business is not eligible... Yep, apparently a brick and mortar bakery isn't eligible for Google Maps. Obviously bogus. I appealed over and over again, rereading the rules, watching every dumb YouTube video, fixing every minor imagined transgression I could think of and each time just got another BS automated "your business is not eligible...". P…

Damn! That is so dystopic to me. The future of businesses determined by the will of some customer support interpretations of bogus rules. Ain't that a bit black mirroresque?

This is how Apple's app approval process works as well :)

You get rejected, you can just increment the version number and resubmit. It will get assigned to a different person and maybe pass this time.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by UltraSane »

esperent wrote: post #29
throwaway2037 wrote: post #27

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I thought exactly the same! My question: How/Why were they able to speak to a human (or maybe chat/email)?

Last year our bakery business got blocked from Google Maps. Reason: Your business is not eligible... Yep, apparently a brick and mortar bakery isn't eligible for Google Maps. Obviously bogus. I appealed over and over again, rereading the rules, watching every dumb YouTube video, fixing every minor imagined transgression I could think of and each time just got another BS automated "your business is not eligible...". P…

That is straight out of the movie Brazil.

Re: YouTube locked my accounts and I can't cancel my subscription

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Post by Gareth321 »

ainiriand wrote: post #39
esperent wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last year our bakery business got blocked from Google Maps. Reason: Your business is not eligible... Yep, apparently a brick and mortar bakery isn't eligible for Google Maps. Obviously bogus. I appealed over and over again, rereading the rules, watching every dumb YouTube video, fixing every minor imagined transgression I could think of and each time just got another BS automated "your business is not eligible...". P…

Damn! That is so dystopic to me. The future of businesses determined by the will of some customer support interpretations of bogus rules. Ain't that a bit black mirroresque?

It's also possible/likely they're using discrimination. It's cheaper to avoid lawsuits and PR disasters by ensuring they respond faster to minority customers. That and/or Vietnamese customers tend to have higher spend/conversion, so Google gives them better service. Or her husband's Google account had some kind of score based on previous spend/statistical probability that determined he deserved better service.

I think there is zero chance these companies aren't using LLMs to sort out the "desirable" customers from the undesirables. Google in particular knows almost everything about us.

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