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Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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why do things make you hopeful?

I’m hopeful for driver assist so I don’t have to pay attention while driving, also this helps disabled people get around (particularly in rural areas with less/no public transit). I’m also hopeful for humanoid robots so they can do all my chores like sweeping, laundry and cooking. In general the idea that me, my family/friends and my country is progressing makes me hopeful.

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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If I'm Gen Z, especially someone who is graduating or just graduated, I'd be very angry at AI too. Even in our own organization, we've almost stopped hiring juniors and interns completely. We just leverage AI more and more. So I can understand how most Gen Zs feel threatened by AI. There are basically 2 groups who are loving AI: * Seniors who have deep knowledge so AI is just there to help make them accomplish their…

> My advice to young people is to embrace AI as fully as you can How will this help them? If LLMs are going to replace workers and reduce the number of available jobs, how will fully embracing an LLM help an individual? To it seems the most it could do is put them ahead of people who won't embrace LLMs ... but if everyone took this advice then the advice would certainly do nothing.

Conversely, it's possible that honing your actual skills by minimizing reliance on LLMs could become a very valuable trait in the coming future. But in that case, you'd be burning fewer tokens and you wouldn't be contributing to LLM company userbase growth which is a bad thing to do.

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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The fields that "AI can't touch" are shit fields that have already been decimated by globalism and immigration. Like cool, farmers, cooks, baristas, plumbers and manual labourers are safe from AI for now. But most paths to a middle class lifestyle are being closed off...

You're right and it's actually even worse than that. If X% of the white collar jobs get replaced by ai that means there are X% more people competing for the "safe" jobs. Over time the "safe" jobs will pay less and less adjusted for inflation because the job displacement is increasing the labor supply making your labor less valuable.

The "safe" jobs will get squeezed in two ways.

Like you said there will be more people trying to do those jobs causing devaluation on the supply side, but at the same time overall demand will drop because there will be less people with comfortable white-collar jobs that make up a lot of the demand for the work those jobs perform.

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> At the same time I see young people frustrated when their cars get broken into or when they get robbed and criminals are not held accountable. My take on this is that legacy media refuses to address these issues or plays them down and at the same time they amplify concerns about AI probably because AI is supplanting the reach and their rhetoric and reducing their ad share.

Maybe it’s just the legacy media I consume, but petty crime is rarely if ever reported (television, newspaper, radio, etc) in my experience.

And I’m not sure how you would expect media institutions to address petty crime. I guess they could ask local leaders and local law enforcement about it.?

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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We are, in the best case scenario, minting a lost generation in real time. This will become increasingly clear over the next 2 years. Meanwhile, simonw and his retiree friends are having the "time of their lives", so that's good I guess :)

“Who cares about the immense harm AI is wrecking on our economy and society, it helps me create worthless throwaway software for myself and lets me be lazier at work.” - people on this forum

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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How could your "business" ever make money if any idiot with a $20 CC subscription can recreate it in a weekend? And no, "I can prompt better than them" is not a differentiator.

The idea is the opposite - "nobody" can make money selling software anymore, because software can be cheaply created by an LLM, so you want to start a business that previously would have had to buy software/software engineers in order to support some other product. However, even if that holds true (which is a big if - right now I wouldn't want to run a business backed by vibe software), and even if there are enough s…

I don't think that's true. SW that works is still expensive to produce. SW that kind of works is super easy to do. The money is in making SW that works. You still need expertise for that.

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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Yeah, no kidding, the tech bros have utterly botched the rollout of this technology. It's the pinnacle of human innovation. It should be revered as our greatest achievement. People should know about how its going to revolutionize scientific research. Instead, they opted for regulatory capture in lieu of addressing people's concerns, using robber-baron techniques to force data center construction in at-risk communitie…

> It's the pinnacle of human innovation. It should be revered as our greatest achievement. People should know about how its going to revolutionize scientific research. How so? Colloquially, AI currently means LLMs. Why would we revere LLMs as our greatest achievement?

People that I speak with often conflate LLMs with AGI (or at least what they thing AGI is).

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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> It's the pinnacle of human innovation. It should be revered as our greatest achievement. People should know about how its going to revolutionize scientific research. How so? Colloquially, AI currently means LLMs. Why would we revere LLMs as our greatest achievement?

People that I speak with often conflate LLMs with AGI (or at least what they thing AGI is).

I'm thinking LLMs lead to an AIG scenario (circa 2008) as opposed to AGI.

Re: Study found that young adults have grown less hopeful and more angry about AI

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If I'm Gen Z, especially someone who is graduating or just graduated, I'd be very angry at AI too. Even in our own organization, we've almost stopped hiring juniors and interns completely. We just leverage AI more and more. So I can understand how most Gen Zs feel threatened by AI. There are basically 2 groups who are loving AI: * Seniors who have deep knowledge so AI is just there to help make them accomplish their…

How could your "business" ever make money if any idiot with a $20 CC subscription can recreate it in a weekend? And no, "I can prompt better than them" is not a differentiator.

Gyms still make money even though you can stay quite fit with just a good set of adjustable dumbbells, a bench, and a jump rope.
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