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Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by rafaelmn »

lbreakjai wrote: post #44
rafaelmn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still paying the 10$ GH copilot but I don't use it because : - context is aggressively trimmed compared to CC obviously for cost saving reasons, so the performance is worse - the request pricing model forces me to adjust how I work Just these alone are not worth saving the 60$/month for me. I like the VSCode integration and the MCP/LSP usage surprised me sometimes over the dumb grep from CC. Ironically VSCode is…

You can use your GH subscription with a different harness. I'm using opencode with it, it turns GH into a pure token provider. The orchestration (compacting, etc.) is left to the harness. It turns it into a very good value for money, as far as I'm concerned.

But you still get charged per turn right ? I don't like that because it impacts my workflow. When I was last using it I would easily burn through the 10$ plan in two days just by iterating on plans interactively.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by blitzar »

numlocked wrote: post #14
Computer0 wrote: post #5

I have had credits on open router that haven’t been deleted since near the projects launch, I believe 365 days is not a rule but rather a right reserved.

COO of OpenRouter here. Thats right — we haven’t done it to date but we can’t have unlimited liabilities stacking up forever. At some point we will start expiring credits from accounts that have seen zero activity in over a year.

Maybe a bad suggestion, but can you do an inactivity "fee" - 25% / year (min $5) or something similar. I like the pre-pay system everyone in Ai seems to have settled on, its better than the AWS bills that we all know and love.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by himata4113 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #34
pixel_popping wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expect you don't have the right to do what you want with the API Key (see waves of ban lately, many SaaS services have closed because of it).

Unless you provide some more details, at least outline what "do what you want" was in your case, this seems like just straight up FUD.

openrouter accepts crypto so might have been some money laundering involved for reselling dirty crypto for llm api.

if that wasn't the reason, hey that's actually a great way to launder money (not financial advice).

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by embedding-shape »

himata4113 wrote: post #53
embedding-shape wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you provide some more details, at least outline what "do what you want" was in your case, this seems like just straight up FUD.

openrouter accepts crypto so might have been some money laundering involved for reselling dirty crypto for llm api. if that wasn't the reason, hey that's actually a great way to launder money (not financial advice).

So you pay OpenRouter with cryptocurrencies, which they accept as a payment method, and then what, they block your account because the cryptocurrencies you paid with came from some account on the blockchain associated with other stuff?

Or what are you really saying here? I don't understand how that's related to "you don't have the right to do what you want with the API Key", which is the FUD part.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by himata4113 »

numlocked wrote: post #42
pixel_popping wrote: post #31

It should be noted about Openrouter that you aren't allowed to expose the access to end users, it has to be for internal usage only, which can be fatal as they have made waves of account banning lately (without warnings).

You are absolutely allowed to expose access to end users, as long as you continue to abide by terms of service. We have hundreds, if not thousands, of apps built on openrouter that in turn have end users of their own. We showcase many of them on our /apps ranking page!

I was actually wondering about this since I've seen like 3 comments talking about the same thing, would it happen to be related to money laundering due to the availability of the crypto payment method?

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by lbreakjai »

rafaelmn wrote: post #51
lbreakjai wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use your GH subscription with a different harness. I'm using opencode with it, it turns GH into a pure token provider. The orchestration (compacting, etc.) is left to the harness. It turns it into a very good value for money, as far as I'm concerned.

But you still get charged per turn right ? I don't like that because it impacts my workflow. When I was last using it I would easily burn through the 10$ plan in two days just by iterating on plans interactively.

Honestly I'm not sure, I'm on my company's plan, I get a progress bar vaguely filling, but no idea of the costs or billing under the hood.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by himata4113 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #54
himata4113 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

openrouter accepts crypto so might have been some money laundering involved for reselling dirty crypto for llm api. if that wasn't the reason, hey that's actually a great way to launder money (not financial advice).

So you pay OpenRouter with cryptocurrencies, which they accept as a payment method, and then what, they block your account because the cryptocurrencies you paid with came from some account on the blockchain associated with other stuff? Or what are you really saying here? I don't understand how that's related to "you don't have the right to do what you want with the API Key", which is the FUD part.

You pay openrouter with dirty crypto, then you have a business which simply resells openrouter giving you clean fiat. I think openrouter specifically only banned those kind of accounts since that's what I have observed from other comments / research. numlocked in this thread has explicitely said that they don't ban accounts for any of the reasons specified above which narrows down the scope to some form of broken ToS specifically around fraud and money laundering.

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by auggierose »

walthamstow wrote: post #47
cbg0 wrote: post #19

I don't think there's currently better value than Github's $40 plan which gives you access to GPT5 & Claude variants. It's pay per request so not ideal for back-and-forth but great for building complex features on the cheap compared to paying per token. Because GH is accessing the API behind the scenes, you should face less degradation when using Sonnet/Opus models compared to a Claude subscription. Keep a ChatGPT $2…

Google $20/mo plan has great usage for Claude Opus. Last time I used it, around Feb, it felt basically unlimited.

So, you basically tried it a century ago...

Re: Reallocating $100/Month Claude Code Spend to Zed and OpenRouter

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Post by Daviey »

ElFitz wrote: post #15

Has anyone (other than OpenClaw) used pi? ( https://shittycodingagent.ai/ , https://pi.dev/ ) Any insights / suggestions / best practices?

Reluctantly, the dev seems to have a stinky attitude.

He went on an "OSS vacation", which is perfectly reasonable and said he'd be back on a certain date. I had a PR open for a trivial fix, someone asked when it would land. I shared he was still away. After his return I politely asked, "@badlogic hey, what can we do to progress this? Thanks x"

I then got what I would consider an abusive reply, because he confused me with someone else. In the meantime he extended his vacation. Didn't even think his shitty attitude was worthy of an apology, that HE confused me with someone else.

https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/discussions/1475#discuss...

And another other thing I fixed with no attribution, just landed it himself separately. https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/discussions/1080

and

https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/issues/1079#event-223896...

Now he's seemingly marked anything with my name on as a "clanker", despite all my changes being by hand.

I've been around open source enough to have a thick skin, but when i'm doing something "for fun" and someone treats you like that, i'd rather avoid it as far as possible. I certainly could not in good faith use this project for anything work related.

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