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Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

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Re: Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

#52
I read this.

It's got some provocative ideas, which Stephen foregrounds.

It's got a great hook, and like most writing incubated under circumstances like this, it leans hard into polished sharp introduction into a well-considered world with a very specific flavor.

It's also—no better way to put it—crappy as a novel.

It's not because the author can't string sentences together.

It's because that's not what makes a novel function as a novel.

Epic opening and premise establishment: 10/10

Nice "plot twist", predictable in its inevitability if not its specifics; conforms to genre: 7/10

Narrative arc: 2/10

Ability to sustain meaningful tension and interest while working through the de rigeur mechanics of filling hundreds of pages: 1/10

I get that there is a new readership with different expectations and styles of reading. (Looking at you tiktok; looking at you Dungeon Crawler Carl; looking at most successful YA fiction especially that which gets SPICEY and is released in 8-book series with a new volume every 11 months)

If you're silverback and relish long-form fiction as previously conceived: set expectations accordingly.

Re: Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

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post #42

This article says “Book Review:” but then doesn’t provide the title of a book. I’m confused. :)

It's in the title: "There is no Antimemetics Division" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54870256-there-is-no-ant...

What title?

Re: Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

#55
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow, that's hidden. Thanks. Wait, OMW book 7? Wtf? Thank you even more! That'll be up next after my Hyperion re-read (RIP Dan)

It's an enjoyable read, hopefully it's the start of a whole new arc in the series with more to come. My only real complaint is it's short and I want more. If you never read his other Interdependency series, it's also great.

I think I read all of his series, yeah. Interdependency was great.

Re: Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

#56
I dislike the ending, at least of v2. In it, the author basically gives a fleshed out (christian, neoplatonist) metaphysics to the world he's created which basically amounts to: heaven exists, humans win against the devil, etc. And the ending itself is a self-conscious version of an ascension narrative. It's a very 90deg turn ending to a book otherwise more interested in a world in which heaven is never accessible.

Re: Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

#57

It's surely not a great book and if you are someone who reads a book every few months i wouldn't recommend it. It's very weird and different and fun, though. I suggest it for people who read a lot of sci-fi and are looking for something that doesn't feel the same as 10 other books they've already read.

Yeah my take is the exact opposite. It's such a page turner that the book has become one of my default recommendations for people looking to get back into reading. Of course you have to be a certain type of nerd to appreciate it.

Re: Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

#58

I dislike the ending, at least of v2. In it, the author basically gives a fleshed out (christian, neoplatonist) metaphysics to the world he's created which basically amounts to: heaven exists, humans win against the devil, etc. And the ending itself is a self-conscious version of an ascension narrative. It's a very 90deg turn ending to a book otherwise more interested in a world in which heaven is never accessible.

It's the strongest possible memetic weapon humans would have - I think it's entirely consistent with the meta-nature of the book, especially the self-conscious part.

Re: Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

#59
post #42

This article says “Book Review:” but then doesn’t provide the title of a book. I’m confused. :)

It's in the title: "There is no Antimemetics Division" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54870256-there-is-no-ant...

Why would you disagree with the parent post and then fail to provide the title of the book in your own response? Just give the name of the book, please.

Re: Book review: There Is No Antimemetics Division

#60

Good timing, the Kindle version is $1.99 right now.

Please don't 'buy' digital items from Amazon, because you won't actually own them. Pay extra, support your local bookshop and get a physical copy which you will actually own.

I really appreciate that sentiment, but on the other hand 98% of the books I buy I won’t read a second time (because reading a new book will almost always trump rereading an old one), so I’m actually fine with not owning most of them, especially at $1.99 prices. The few that I deeply care about I buy a physical copy of.
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