UK intelligence censored report on global warming and homeland security

Post by HK-NC » Sun, Apr 05, 2026, 11:55 PM UTC

kypro wrote: post #26

sunshine-o wrote: post #11

Here is the solution nobody is talking about: The population of the UK or Europe did not explode in the last hundred years. It did not even double. The population used to be more rural and relatively self sufficient in terms of food. There is actually enough land in Europe to feed everybody, especially considering the great progress we made scientifically. You can actually sustain yourself on a few hundred square met…

I think the fundamental problem is the conflict between climate, family and live-style vs corporate interest and economic growth. Ideally, we should want populations that are either not growing or slowly shrinking, but we can't have this because multi-national corporations don't want to invest in countries with a declining consumer base. We must therefore sustain population growth indefinitely. Similar humans would p…

Post by pjc50 » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 4:24 AM UTC

sunshine-o wrote: post #17

pjc50 wrote: post #9

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I don't think it's been possible to feed the UK domestically since before WW2. I note you put the word "social" in there; very little social housing is being built, it's mostly private. Agrivoltaics are also possible, but of course everyone would rather do the politics of emotions ("hate farmers") than discuss the issues. Such as how we grow enough electricity, too.

> I don't think it's been possible to feed the UK domestically since before WW2. Of course you can, I know people being almost self sustainable right now on very little land. It is hard, frugal but highly rewarding and we have evolved to do it since very recently. Energy and heating is a bit more complicated. We obviously cannot burn wood or coal like we use to because this is actually very damaging to the planet. So…

Post by hdgvhicv » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 8:57 AM UTC

defrost wrote: post #33

hdgvhicv wrote: post #18

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To his credit Clarkson has done more form farming with his show than countryfile or the archers has done in decades. He bought it as a tax break, but I’d leave not ire for “farmers” like the musician and vacuum cleaner salesman. Nothing caused me to laugh more at the “woe is the millionaire march” than seeing Lloyd Webber and his dog out on the march.

> vacuum cleaner salesman. Dyson? Sure - he seems performative (from afar, I'm antipodean to this BTW) with his industrialised strawberry wheels etc. > the musician Lost me .. I'm sure the UK has a few gumbooted millionaire class rockers / composers - I'm guessing that's a throw at the impresario of musical theatre with a life peerage who is rarely seen cutting hay. I'm not sure I'd class either of those as farmers (…

Post by sph » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 9:21 AM UTC

sunshine-o wrote: post #11

Here is the solution nobody is talking about: The population of the UK or Europe did not explode in the last hundred years. It did not even double. The population used to be more rural and relatively self sufficient in terms of food. There is actually enough land in Europe to feed everybody, especially considering the great progress we made scientifically. You can actually sustain yourself on a few hundred square met…

Post by sheikhnbake » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 1:38 PM UTC

JCattheATM wrote: post #52

beejiu wrote: post #38

The UK is consistently amongst the lowest household expenditure on food in the entire world. Only 3 countries in the world are self sufficient in food. If this "reasonable worst-case" scenario happens, surely the UK is one of the better placed to deal with it?

> The UK is consistently amongst the lowest household expenditure on food in the entire world. How? > Only 3 countries in the world are self sufficient in food. Surely a small island nation is not one of them?