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Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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What are on about now? France explicitely and vocally refused to enter the war. That is why their tanker passed.

France also joined China and Russia in blocking Bahreini resolution that would authorise "all defensive means necessary" to protect commercial shipping in the strait. That is why their tanker passed.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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post #16

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We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

> Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democratic norms and institutions that so many of them have claimed to cherish. Before he has dismantled and replaced too many to salvage. Or perhaps they have work tomorrow. I'm going to take action by voting in November. Or are you suggesting revolution is more prudent, that I should put my life on the line right now because the global economy is a little fu…

Interesting question. Do you believe that waiting is fine because the election will be fair in November?

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

If you could design a perfect plan to destroy the United States, Donald Trump, probably through sheer buffoonish incompetence seems to be implementing it.

I don’t think he’s incompetent. He’s actually quite good at extracting wealth for himself/family/donors/friends out of whatever the administration is doing.

Iran is a distraction from the Epstein files, and the fact that many from the Trump circle appear in it - Trump himself, some of his children, Elon Musk, Steve Bannon, Peter Thiel, etc.

The war with Iran is also a way to make a few more suspicious trades on the market swings, especially the ones following each speech or decision. It would be easy to time trades if you know what will happen because you’re deciding it.

The US may be destroyed but it’s because it’s just collateral damage to the billionaires and Epstein class. Not because they’re incompetent. We need to contain their wealth and power with totally new laws.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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post #38
post #26

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What are on about now? France explicitely and vocally refused to enter the war. That is why their tanker passed.

If that was true many more tankers would have passed from other countries that were more against the war. France is one of few countries with large military presence in the area, that is the only thing they do more than most other countries. Edit: And France even directly threatened to use force here. If you only read American news you wouldn't know since they want it to seem like the world is on Irans side here. Wha…

Spanish tankers are going through. Filipinian and Indian too.

Again, what are you on about.

France was one of 3 countries that literally blocked UN resolution about opening straight by force. And president repeatedly called it "impossible".

You read weird news if you thing "a threat" of anything is making iran to let ships pass. Money and noninvolvement do.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

> Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democratic norms and institutions that so many of them have claimed to cherish. Before he has dismantled and replaced too many to salvage. Or perhaps they have work tomorrow. I'm going to take action by voting in November. Or are you suggesting revolution is more prudent, that I should put my life on the line right now because the global economy is a little fu…

The sooner regime change comes in the US, the better.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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post #43
post #8

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No matter who controls the US in the future, it will never go back to the position it once had globally. It's been actively harming it's allies, threatening them with invasion and conspiring with their enemies. The rest of the world cannot afford to give the American people the benefit of the doubt. After Trump I, there was hope it was just a fluke. Trump II is much worse and cements the unreliability of the American…

This. We all thought Trump was a crazy accident but the fact that he almost beat Biden, and then did beat Harris, means we just can't trust Americans to put sensible people in charge. Assuming a democrat takes the office next, they will inherit an economy in tatters, a failing infrastructure and a broken strategic alliance. They'll have four years to try to fix all of that while the republicans blame them for everyth…

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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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post #54
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that was true many more tankers would have passed from other countries that were more against the war. France is one of few countries with large military presence in the area, that is the only thing they do more than most other countries. Edit: And France even directly threatened to use force here. If you only read American news you wouldn't know since they want it to seem like the world is on Irans side here. Wha…

Spanish tankers are going through. Filipinian and Indian too. Again, what are you on about. France was one of 3 countries that literally blocked UN resolution about opening straight by force. And president repeatedly called it "impossible". You read weird news if you thing "a threat" of anything is making iran to let ships pass. Money and noninvolvement do.

> Spanish tankers are going through

No they are not, this French ship was the first European tanker going through.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No matter who controls the US in the future, it will never go back to the position it once had globally. It's been actively harming it's allies, threatening them with invasion and conspiring with their enemies. The rest of the world cannot afford to give the American people the benefit of the doubt. After Trump I, there was hope it was just a fluke. Trump II is much worse and cements the unreliability of the American…

Never is a long time. Look at where Germany was after both WWI and WWII, and where it is now; it's demonstrably possible to cause irreparable damage to everyone around you, and then rise back to the top (multiple times!). The only questions are timeline and scale.

You also have to consider the outside intervention forcibly imposed upon Germany, after being defeated in war both times, and how the first round of that contributed directly to WWII. It's not exactly a playbook to copy verbatim.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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post #16
post #5

Last week the US stated they didn't need any of the oil, and that if other countries wanted it they could go figure it out themselves. Looks like they have. And yet the US is now back to threatening Iran if they don't open up the oil.

We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

Not one individual. You forgot the ones put the yoke.
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