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US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

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Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

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post #12

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To win the war another time, I guess ? To be fair, he told us we would get "tired of winning". On a more serious note : could it be that iranian air defense is being supplemented by an ally ? Someone further east ? Or, simply, that they kept some reserve to keep the war long, and play with the American customer's never ?

Why make up unsubstantiated claims about Chinese support, when it is known that Russia supports Iran with military hardware?

Contrary to popular belief, Iran's most important arms supplier has been China, and not Russia, in the last decade. To preserve its ties with Israel and Saudi Arabia, Russia has sometimes compromised arm shipments to Iran. Historically too, Russia has worked with France and Britain to undermine Iran, through the Shah.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#52
post #14

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Russia's pretty busy with its own war.

But probably itching to do to the US what the US did to them in Ukraine. (And doing so is likely to reduce US aid to Ukraine, as a bonus to them. Ukraine's certainly not likely to get Tomahawks and Patriots right now.)

What US aid? Trump's been stonewalling it for them just fine.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#53
post #44

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What do you think American Empire is all about if not controlling the oil rich countries in middle east, as well as extremely oil rich countries like Venezuela? The only failing here is that America has decaying, hallowed out industrial base where it can't just cheaply mass produce and replenish hi-end rockets and tech to take care of business-as-usual quickly, because everything down to raw materials is just so expe…

Oil itself is becoming irrelevant quickly. It's a play for becoming king of the ashes.

This is simply not true by most objective metrics... unless you don't like plastic and fertilizer?

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#54
post #22

This whole war has already been a weird suicide ritual when it comes to American soft power. I guess hard power is next. The American Empire, burnt down by its own Nero/Caligula hybrid, while the population just watches it happen...

I believe Trump when asked about climate change said something to the effect of "I'll be dead by then."

I think that applies most everything he does in a way.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#55
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But probably itching to do to the US what the US did to them in Ukraine. (And doing so is likely to reduce US aid to Ukraine, as a bonus to them. Ukraine's certainly not likely to get Tomahawks and Patriots right now.)

What US aid? Trump's been stonewalling it for them just fine.

I said "did to", not "is currently doing to".

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#56
post #48

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> while the population just watches it happen... About 1/5 of America voted for this guy after seeing the trainwreck of his first admin. At the same time, protests response is continually growing and breaking records as economic disparities and totalitarian responses intensify.

Looking at all Americans in deceiving. For starters, 1/5 are below the voting age. 49.8% of voters voted for this.

Yeah, most people who voted, voted for Trump.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#57

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Genuine question for Americans: donyou not think that a Democrat today would be leading the same war? We're talking about a party that facilitated, and took part in, 1 year of genocide. In what world could you imagine Israel's planned war against Iran not being automatically supported by whatever US party was in power?

You are being downvoted for stating the truth - you are absolutely right that the Democrats too would have fully supported Israel's attack on Iran. Let us not forget that Biden played a major role in Israel's ongoing genocide in Gaza (and now in West bank) by helping the IDF spread its propaganda hoax that "Hamas beheaded babies", in the western media (Biden lied that he had personally seen the "horrific pictures " -…

Doubtful.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#58
post #3

We've been told their air defenses are completely wiped out. Why do we need stealthy cruise missiles now?

Because arms manufacturers need to sell a lie, "lack of stealth makes everything vulnerable", when it may have applied to symmetric conventional warfare 30 years ago. These days, peer adversaries have multi-modal IRST/EO systems in addition to AESA that make radar-obsessing "stealth" completely lose the plot on other risks and considerations. The F-35 damaged in Iran is just one example of this.

Re: US deploying nearly all stealthy long-range JASSM-ER cruise missiles to Iran war

#59
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think American Empire is all about if not controlling the oil rich countries in middle east, as well as extremely oil rich countries like Venezuela? The only failing here is that America has decaying, hallowed out industrial base where it can't just cheaply mass produce and replenish hi-end rockets and tech to take care of business-as-usual quickly, because everything down to raw materials is just so expe…

Oil itself is becoming irrelevant quickly. It's a play for becoming king of the ashes.

Familiarize yourself with this: https://www.worldometers.info/oil/

Top reserves by country, historical data on consumption (including by country).

These basic data points explain US foreign policy better than anything.

There is no data or trends that supports the notion that oil is becoming irrelevant, much less quickly.

US with it's current reserves and oil consumption rate would last roughly 12 years, btw.

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