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Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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"TSLA is about robots, not cars" is thrown without irony to anyone that questions the car business.

In 6 months post-IPO: SpaceX purchases Tesla

Merger in all stock deal? That could happen... Have to get to be bigger than everyone else.

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This is all so frustrating. Tesla could have easily been an American auto maker generational success story. Instead they’re working hard to undermine their own success, turn their brand toxic, and even design vehicles that are unappealing to key purchasing demographics (Cybertruck).

Yes, Elon's trajectory has been absolutely unbelievable since 2019 or so. Talk about a guy who cratered his whole reputation. It's a shame.

2018 (tham luang cave rescue) is when the cracks really started showing up, so the trajectory was probably set a while earlier.

The tendency was probably always there given the serial lying about self driving started circa 2015, or the weird ego trip of ousting the founders and getting himself called co-founder, but if we’re looking for a point event the removal of his long time PA in 2014 still stands out to me.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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Yes, Elon's trajectory has been absolutely unbelievable since 2019 or so. Talk about a guy who cratered his whole reputation. It's a shame.

What changed is he took the mask off. He was always the sleaze that he is today, but a lot of us were fooled into believing he wanted to do something good.

I think the vast majority of people that operate at that level of success have a similar mask, but they’re more successful in managing it.

What caused Elon to lose his ability to manage it is subject for debate, I personally believe he discovered drugs in 2019 and the rest is history.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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no worries, when things go hard and stock goes down they can count on Trump for a convenient war and oil crisis.

This war is going to push oil prices up, which means more EV sales. On top of that, make sure to sprinkle a bit of tariffs in order to block BYD. Mhhh, makes sense.

The oil prices is a short term thing, and Trump is all about "Drill baby drill" so no, it doesn't make sense.

The tariffs though is a great point. Definitely a boon for Tesla from good old Papa Trump. It's grotesque.

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What changed is he took the mask off. He was always the sleaze that he is today, but a lot of us were fooled into believing he wanted to do something good.

I don't agree after reading Walter Isaacson's excellent biography of Elon. It's deeply unfortunate that the book is already a few years old, I'd love and buy the hell out of a 2nd edition that is updated with the last few years. Obviously it's always been latent in Elon, but he was a pretty bog standard lightly-if-apolitical silicon valley startup guy for most of his adult life. The free speech erosion under the Bide…

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Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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This is all so frustrating. Tesla could have easily been an American auto maker generational success story. Instead they’re working hard to undermine their own success, turn their brand toxic, and even design vehicles that are unappealing to key purchasing demographics (Cybertruck).

No. For all practical purposes, Chinese cars are perfectly fine for most consumers. Since you cannot beat China on manufacturing costs, this war is already lost. Musk or no Musk.

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The best pronoun joke, ever.

It could be, except it's not factually correct (and an element of truth is necesssary for good humor). GP was talking about Tesla , not about Elon. The correct pronoun for a company is surely "they"

It could be, or you could consider it to be like a ship, in which case it is she!

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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What changed is he took the mask off. He was always the sleaze that he is today, but a lot of us were fooled into believing he wanted to do something good.

I don't agree after reading Walter Isaacson's excellent biography of Elon. It's deeply unfortunate that the book is already a few years old, I'd love and buy the hell out of a 2nd edition that is updated with the last few years. Obviously it's always been latent in Elon, but he was a pretty bog standard lightly-if-apolitical silicon valley startup guy for most of his adult life. The free speech erosion under the Bide…

He supports Trump now, so I really doubt free speech is important to him.

Re: Tesla Is Sitting on a Record 50k Unsold EVs

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This is all so frustrating. Tesla could have easily been an American auto maker generational success story. Instead they’re working hard to undermine their own success, turn their brand toxic, and even design vehicles that are unappealing to key purchasing demographics (Cybertruck).

The Cybertruck, while unappealing to some, is the only vehicle on the road that doesn't look the same as every other one.

For all of Elon Musk's objectionable-eccentricities, at least this legacy will remain: He dared to make a vehicle (the Cybertruck) that looks like it's actually from the future; not designed by another salaryman-engineering-graduate with a copy of AutoCAD and a wind-tunnel (which is what everything else on the road looks like).

Power the next-generation of Cybertruck with hydrogen, and bundle a solar-electrolysis charging-station with it, and I'd buy one before breakfast.

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