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Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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There’s something off about Reddit. Either I grew up or it became hollow from within. Just angry people scolding each other all the time. There are some true gems however but usually in smaller focused subreddits.

I've wondered the same thing, but you growing up definitely has to be a factor.

> Just angry people scolding each other all the time.

This really does describe it perfectly. I don't know about others, but focusing on my career pulled me out of a relatively low-income and dysfunctional environment. Reddit too often reminds me of people I used to know in real life.

It's been so many years since then, and finding and living a better life was so intertwined with my young adulthood that I almost convinced myself people like that don't exist in real life anymore. I thought the whole world had moved on, but search results nowadays prioritize Reddit enough that I'm routinely proven wrong.

Contrary to popular belief, I don't think most of the stuff on there is fake. Those people probably really are like that. Certain ways of thinking can become so normalized that they don't even see what there is to be ashamed about. What I sense the most on there is a lot of stress and the resulting irrational fears that pour out of people when they feel too much pressure. People under a seemingly endless and vague threat will go a little nuts and start to swat at anything that disturbs their worldview.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

#52
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/r/horsecarriage bans all discussion of cars /r/assembly bans all discussion of 4GL LLM programming isn't going away by not talking about it. It's time to move on, and eventually considering farming.

More like /r/cars bans all discussion of electric cars.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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I know this snarky, I'm sorry ahead of time. But I don't know how else to make this point... The fact that the people running r/progamming don't know not to wait until April 2 to publish this tells me that they don't have real-world experience in shipping software in a business environment. We are SO past the point of software being developed without LLMs at _all_, the trend line is never going to reverse. I don't un…

I hate AI video, I hate AI art, but if you are pretending that AI isn’t going be writing code for 99% of projects going forward you are absolutely kidding yourself.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

#54

There can't be any interesting discussion about AI programming. Every conversation boils down to what skill files you use, or how Opus 4.6 compares to Codex, or how well you can manage 16 parallel agents.

You have not seen my recent WhatsApp chats. Me and a pal are talking about what we're doing with Claude code, and it's quite interesting!

Just like discussions about traditional programming never were only about syntax and type systems, AI discussions aren't only about prompts and harnesses. I find there's quite a bit of overlap actually! "How do you approach this problem?" Is a question that is valid in both discussions, for example.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

See dang’s comments on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079 . (That link itself is a submission about HN’s recent guidelines changes to include “Don't post generated comments or AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans.”)

I interpreted the GP as "personal blog posts about AI/LLMs", not LLM-generated comments.

dang’s comments in the link above address “Show HN” submissions. (That was my interpretation of “self-promoting AI posts”… :)

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

#58
I created an account and started reading this site primarily for programming news when r/programming took a precipitous dive in quality around 2020 or so. Before it was an example of one of the few good communities there, but it quickly became show and tell (ironically this was against its unenforced rules). And any real interesting posts had no discussion. But then I noticed the "Other Communities" tab would show posts from a HN posts sub that tracked posts here, and suddenly I was able to get great information. A post about CockroachDB that had 20 boorish comments complaining about its name over there would have the designer of it over here answering technical questions about its capabilities.

THAT SAID, I think this might be what gets me to go back to that place. I used to come here to read about new Python tooling, latest database development news, interesting thinkpieces on development practices, etc. Now it's dominated by AI evangelism, "I'm Showing HN™ What I Used By Claude Tokens On :)", AI complaining, AI agent strategies, AI's impacts on the industry news, etc. There are some non-AI posts but not as many good ones as there used to be, and a lot of the non-AI posts quickly turn out to be AI written. Because they respect their time as a writer greatly and my time as a reader not at all. It's ClankerNews, the Hackers are in short supply.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

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HN should also limit all these self-promoting AI posts.

Favourite genres of posts on HN in the past 2 years:

* “I am bullish about AI”

* “I am an AI skeptic, [long rambling], but overall, I am bullish about AI”

It’s amazing how even criticism of the technology somehow ends up being a hype post. At least there are still places on the Internet where we can have a serious discussion about the downsides.

Re: r/programming bans all discussion of LLM programming

#60
If you enjoy comedy, you should check the status of subreddits like /r/selfhosted or /r/homelab, etc. I find them interesting because they are on the edge of computers pro-users and software developers. Used to be a nice community

Now it’s people sharing AI apps that look exactly like other AI apps that they have never heard of [1]

Project rise then implode hilariously in a month [2]

An ebook management project that grew over a year with pretty conservative feature set, then in 3 months implements every ebook feature under the sun, breaks every thing, then implodes. Funniest thing is when the “AI Slop” callout is itself AI written and no body notices. [3]

Like… amazing comedy. Then after the owner deletes the repo, 10 people have to role-play the hero who “has the code” because clicking Fork on GitHub is the sign of a true hacker.

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1r9s2rn/musicgr...

[2] https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1rckopd/huntarr...

[3] https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1rs275q/psa_thi...

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