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Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Post by themafia »

wat10000 wrote: post #33
themafia wrote: post #11

> if a commercial crew capsule (SpaceX Dragon or Boeing Starliner) returned to Earth with the kind of damage seen on Orion, NASA would insist on a redesign and an unmanned test flight to validate it. Are you sure about that? https://spaceflightnow.com/2022/05/24/spacex-swapping-heat-s...

Your link says it failed in testing, not in flight.

Did they demand an unmanned flight just to prove it worked? Or did they accept an entirely new design based on modeling and ground tests and then immediately flew it with crew on board?

Then again I'm not one of those people who roots for NASA to fail for some reason.

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Post by _qib3 »

dundarious wrote: post #49
delichon wrote: post #22

I am very not brave but I'd volunteer. The trip is far more awesome than anything I have planned for the rest of my life. And if the shield fails on reentry it would only hurt for a few seconds. So if the crew and the backups and their backups read this and have second thoughts, ping me.

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori

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Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Post by gedy »

oulu2006 wrote: post #47
delichon wrote: post #22

I am very not brave but I'd volunteer. The trip is far more awesome than anything I have planned for the rest of my life. And if the shield fails on reentry it would only hurt for a few seconds. So if the crew and the backups and their backups read this and have second thoughts, ping me.

This is an interesting comment -- your life is precious brother, you might have something in store down the road :)

Depending on one's age, maybe not honestly? (Not the OP)

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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delichon wrote: post #22

I am very not brave but I'd volunteer. The trip is far more awesome than anything I have planned for the rest of my life. And if the shield fails on reentry it would only hurt for a few seconds. So if the crew and the backups and their backups read this and have second thoughts, ping me.

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Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Post by FpUser »

dataflow wrote: post #34

What I don't get is why the heck are the astronauts willing to risk their lives on something they must know by now is so dangerous? Is it really better to risk death than to risk getting fired?

Some people go to war for the thrill of it, others do base jumping, free solo climbing and whole lot of other activities that eventually kill many of them. It is in their genes.

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Post by lostlogin »

delichon wrote: post #22

I am very not brave but I'd volunteer. The trip is far more awesome than anything I have planned for the rest of my life. And if the shield fails on reentry it would only hurt for a few seconds. So if the crew and the backups and their backups read this and have second thoughts, ping me.

My theory is that this is something I’d say/do aged 20, and laugh at aged 60. I’m slightly closer to 60 and am into the ‘No’ zone.

Re: Artemis II is not safe to fly

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Post by wmf »

throw-23 wrote: post #48

As someone who is actually (still) a fan of basic research, Artemis looks like a fun time for the 1% with a $100 billion dollar price tag, except that since it's only 4 astronauts and support staff, it's less than 1%. I opposed messing with NASA funding for a long time, but arguments referencing spin-off tech and so on wear thin. Spin-off occurring lately would/could only be captured by existing billionaires anyway,…

The more things change, the more they stay the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitey_on_the_Moon
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