Let everyone who wants it be safe using the Google App Store. But please let me do stupid/experimental things with my phone.
Android Developer Verification
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Re: Android Developer Verification
#52It really seems like they are doing a lot to appease the tiny minority of us power users, adb load unaffected, one time toggle in settings to opt out, no change to alternative app stores as long as the apk was built by a verified developer. Crazy how harsh the sentiment is here, there are real people being harmed by scam apps intercepting sms one time codes and this will reduce the rate of that happening. It's not li…
Because this is a glide path to what they really want, look at Apple and running unsigned apps on your Mac, how it started, simple right click, how is it going, near impossible.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
People don't want it until they've been scammed. Then they'll complain why you didn't save them.
Do people complain about being scammed with Windows or macOS? Apparently not. So they probably also don't complain about Android. The security seems more an excuse to become more closed. Like iOS.
I don't necessarily like the idea of a company wiping their hands clean and saying "well - not our problem!" either though.
Companies shouldn't wait to solve issues like this - they should be proactively helping their most vulnerable users. That is the "do no evil" motto.
I don't know enough to say whether this method is the right approach however.
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#55What % of Android users actually want this? Do they know or care? I've been using Android since 2010 because it was open in ways that the Apple ecosystem wasn't. I do not want this and imagine hardly any other power users (for lack of a better term) do. I'm already using a mostly deGoogled device but this really seals the deal. I have been longing for a true Linux phone for years and now seems like a good time to get…
It's not about users, it's about a single judges idiotic ruling that Google play store is a monopoly, and the Apple app store is not.
Different judge you say? You're right. But when Google in their appeal asked the judge why the app store isn't a monopoly, the judge told Google with a straight face
"You can't be anti-competitive if you have no competitors."
Google took note.
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#56The Android verification is such a broken experience. Recently I decided to purchase a dev account for my company, so far: 1) Provided my company DUNS number etc. once to create the payment profile. I did this some times ago, don’t remember the details but it was an involved verification process and it is marked as verified business payment profile. 2) Later on the payment step verified myself with a passport and ban…
Can you pay with Google Play GC or Google Play points, and if not, why not?
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#57So, anyway, how do we make sure that our phones don't turn into a pumpkin on a set date? I suppose it's all shit long term, but at the very least I don't want to be forced to look for a solution before I need a new phone. So, what do you do? Can you just disable android updates somehow and it will solve the issue? Or it is already a ticking bomb that will be activated on the set date no matter what?
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#58The Android verification is such a broken experience. Recently I decided to purchase a dev account for my company, so far: 1) Provided my company DUNS number etc. once to create the payment profile. I did this some times ago, don’t remember the details but it was an involved verification process and it is marked as verified business payment profile. 2) Later on the payment step verified myself with a passport and ban…
What you're describing is not "broken", it's the process and it appears it hasn't even failed for you. My experience with getting a verified "business" developer account from Google mirrors the experience as getting one from Apple, except it's a one-time fee and much less than Apple. Yes there are hoops to jump through, identification usually requires some hoops, but pretty it's straightforward. I am not commenting o…
> What type of "experience" are you expecting to have anyway?
Being told upfront what is required to complete the process so you don't have to start over again multiple times?
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#59The Android verification is such a broken experience. Recently I decided to purchase a dev account for my company, so far: 1) Provided my company DUNS number etc. once to create the payment profile. I did this some times ago, don’t remember the details but it was an involved verification process and it is marked as verified business payment profile. 2) Later on the payment step verified myself with a passport and ban…
Can you pay with Google Play GC or Google Play points, and if not, why not?
I believe you can’t. BTW Apple allows you to pay for a developer account with in app purchase from the developer app on your iPhone. Still has limitations and you may be rejected depending on your payment method and some other factors but even the fact that it’s possible makes it 1000 better than Google’s way of handling it.
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#60A 'safe' app store would promote and prioritize open source apps compiled on public auditable runners.
F-Droid is in fact what an app store concerned about user safety looks like. Nobody gets hoodwinked into installing apps that track them or sell their data or otherwise abuse them on F-Droid.