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Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by anukin »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

I generally don’t like something not related to tech in hacker news. Humanitarian crisis is happening across the world. There were no posts here for Sudanese people. None for Nigerian Christians or Bangladeshi Hindus. Or is humanitarian crisis only happen when certain people are involved in them? I have noticed this all across the wider web. Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and posts in support of them. Pakistan is openly committing human rights violations against baluchis and have done it against Bangladeshi Hindus. Sudan and Somalia have both been supported by the gulf countries. Maybe start protesting and have same amount of human feelings for non Muslims as well.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by defrost »

anukin wrote: post #51
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

I generally don’t like something not related to tech in hacker news. Humanitarian crisis is happening across the world. There were no posts here for Sudanese people. None for Nigerian Christians or Bangladeshi Hindus. Or is humanitarian crisis only happen when certain people are involved in them? I have noticed this all across the wider web. Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and p…

> There were no posts here for Sudanese people.

You've made two submissions, neither were about Sudan.

> None for Nigerian Christians

Here's one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45789043

> Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and posts in support of them.

There are vast numbers of posts about Ukraine and its attack by Russia. Daily I see many comments expressing human feelings for people across the spectrum, muslim, non muslim, male, female, et al.

Perhaps your impressions are a little blinkered.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by TomeveilSeeker »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

It just proves again how White people think suffering is only for "WHITE PEOPLE", for other barbarian people, it doesn't matter.

Hackernews is dominated by white people and Indians, it's not surprising they support rape and all other crimes of Israel. If it was not the case, then this should have been surprising.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

anukin wrote: post #51
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

I generally don’t like something not related to tech in hacker news. Humanitarian crisis is happening across the world. There were no posts here for Sudanese people. None for Nigerian Christians or Bangladeshi Hindus. Or is humanitarian crisis only happen when certain people are involved in them? I have noticed this all across the wider web. Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and p…

> Pakistan is openly committing human rights violations against baluchis and have done it against Bangladeshi Hindus

Hello, I am an Indian (Hindu) person, I have made my stance extremely clear when the recent attack on India was done by terrorists in which there was a religious angle as well where Islamist extremist terrorists asked to recite an Islamic prayer otherwise they were shot.

That event has traumatized me as well, I may not have submitted it but there has always been a conflict between Hindus and Muslims after the British divided us.

I also support the baloch movement, in the sense that, Pakistani corruption/militarial aggression has severely underfunded the region while its get its resources extracted from.

So, if anything, according to your comment, you should feel like I should be against all of muslims.

but that is not the case, there are good muslims and bad muslims, just as how there are good jews and bad jews and just as how there are good and bad hindus

Essentially, religion doesn't play a role in good or bad but religion certainly extremizes the elements

In this case it was religious extremist agression from Israel (Jewish faith) to Islam/Palestine.

In our case it was religious extremist aggression from Islamist Extremist terrorist to India in pahalgam attack which had shook the nation to its core.

My point is, I can't/won't see Innocent people/kids dying, and yes, this goes beyond religion, for the most part.

I have also been aware of the sudanese people, its a real tragedy where UAE/Dubai are funding opposite sides and rape/murder/slaughtering of Innocent people are also happening, its really scary as well.

> Maybe start protesting and have same amount of human feelings for non Muslims as well.

I kind of do, It's just that Innocent Muslims are dying in higher proportions simply because they are in war-torn regions caused by Israel/US in this case of Iran/Palestine.

I genuinely want all wars to go over and have either an element of co-existence or mutual agreement for the most part.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

TomeveilSeeker wrote: post #53
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

It just proves again how White people think suffering is only for "WHITE PEOPLE", for other barbarian people, it doesn't matter. Hackernews is dominated by white people and Indians, it's not surprising they support rape and all other crimes of Israel. If it was not the case, then this should have been surprising.

I am an Indian (Hindu), Ironically, People have accused me of only caring about only Muslim feelings (:

I don't stand with rape and all other crimes of Israel because I don't judge these actions by the religion of the victims and yes, even if that might mean that, that religion might have done the same to us (Pahalgam attack which shook the nation)

I think my point is, just because muslim extremism has impacted our lives doesn't mean that Innocent muslims, especially kids should be tortured. I am more than happy if everyone removes extremist element, period.

I have said this consistently here, but this goes beyond any religion. People are treating it as a muslim kid being impacted but I am seeing it as my kid being impacted.

This war started recently, the people living their didn't know this could happen to them

We dont know the future, what if something like this might happen to one of us where the enemy might be someone else, maybe even Extremist Islam

I have raised my voice against opresssion, I don't discriminate against who I speak or not as I try to speak against the wrong, as long as someone innocent is getting opressed, My heart goes out to them and religion shouldn't have to do too much with it.

My idea maybe is that too, that, if we show support of normal people even if religious differences collide, we can show that we are beyond religion and actually help bring down Extremism/will help them bring internal resistance too if something bad is done from their extremist side.

At some point, I believe in Humanity and sharing that Humanity, So its quite shocking to say, but, its best that we start treating muslim people as humans too.

Atleast that's what my religion has taught me personally, I really don't discriminate based on religion for the most part but I do understand why people might do that but I feel like all it does is seperate us even further and I wouldn't be able to have a coherent moral framework if I become hypocritical in who I criticize/don't and become partial to it.

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by camgunz »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

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Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by Gud »

camgunz wrote: post #56
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

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I fail to see how this can be anti semitic propaganda, the child is a Semite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by etyhhgfff »

camgunz wrote: post #56
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #10

This has been flagged twice by people of Hackernews. I genuinely don't know how to respond to this in good faith but I will still try to do my best. Previous discussion (at edit 27 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47553964 Unless someone gives me a genuine reason as to why people are flagging it and the people who are flagging it can come state the reason publicly, just as how I am able to defend that th…

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Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by snthpy »

khaledh wrote: post #41

The list keeps growing. - Flour massacre - World Central Kitchen drone strikes - Gaza aid distribution massacres - Rafah paramedics massacre - Targeting of journalists - Forced starvation - Crop destruction Israel will deny all of those. But the world have seen it with their own eyes.

There seem to be two fundamentally incompatible interpretations of "Never again" [1]. I thought it was a no brainer for universal adoption, but TIL that for some it means more of the same.

1: Never again - Wikipedia https://share.google/LGCVvfaJFeJOizox9

Re: Gaza toddler returned with alleged torture wounds after Israeli detention

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Post by anukin »

defrost wrote: post #52
anukin wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I generally don’t like something not related to tech in hacker news. Humanitarian crisis is happening across the world. There were no posts here for Sudanese people. None for Nigerian Christians or Bangladeshi Hindus. Or is humanitarian crisis only happen when certain people are involved in them? I have noticed this all across the wider web. Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and p…

> There were no posts here for Sudanese people. You've made two submissions, neither were about Sudan. > None for Nigerian Christians Here's one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45789043 > Only when Muslims suffer from hands of non Muslims, there are protests and posts in support of them. There are vast numbers of posts about Ukraine and its attack by Russia. Daily I see many comments expressing human feelings f…

I have seen posts about Palestine here much more than the one you got for the Nigerian Christians. The one you got is from 2025 even when the issue is still ongoing. Maybe your impressions are muddied?
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