Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it wouldn't. How would that at all help the average consumer?
It would expose the ridiculous amount of information advertisers have about you.
Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
51–60 of 73 posts
Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#52Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
What if they’re not incompetent and you intentionally looked at Lamborghini seat covers, then, and correctly flagged you as willing to pay more as a result? What if that fake sale tactic only works on you when your willpower is low and they know it? Price fixing by software is a real thing. I agree that ensuring lots of competitors is a better way to avoid it. How would Colorado do that?
> What if they’re not incompetent and you intentionally looked at Lamborghini seat covers, then, and correctly flagged you as willing to pay more as a result? What they're more likely to do is show you higher end products, because a rich person (or the person they hire to buy things for them) still has the capacity to compare prices for the same product and then charging more for the same thing still loses them the s…
These days you can do a much better job if you have data about your prospective customer. This is not a hypothetical. For example, Target was found to charge higher prices in their app if your location was close to one of their stores. Orbits and Delta have both been found to offer personalized prices as well.
https://retailwire.com/discussion/will-targets-dynamic-prici...
https://www.fastsimon.com/ecommerce-wiki/personalization/dyn...
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/personalized-pricing-ha...
Price fixing where everybody uses the same software is a real thing. RealPage recently settled a lawsuit over this.
You seem to be taking a very Libertarian approach where you assume economics 101 wins out over anything more complex, but if you look at what's actually going on in the world this is not the case.
Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#54> Republican Rep. Chris Richardson, an Elbert County Republican, argued that the bill is too broad and could regulate standard analytic usage in the workplace, such as a human resources software that recommends a pay band for employees based on performance. He does not think this is is just selling it further? Oh no, it might prohibit software automatically determining my wages, how could we even have a society if we…
One of the frontrunners for the governorship is just spouting straight antisemitic garbage: https://www.9news.com/article/news/politics/gop-gubernatoria...
Edit: He withdrew this morning and is running for the GOP chair now.
Bobert is quiet these days but I'm sure she'll ramp up after her primary closes.
The various school boards are perennial sources of my idiocy. My (former) board would go into public meetings and just openly and freely admit to crimes.
The county commissioners in DougCo recently decided to fine the victims of shoplifting from r not reporting it. No, you didn't read that wrong.
So, in summary, the GOP and many, but not all, of their state level membership aren't really sending their best these days.
Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you get from "pay band [...] based on performance" to "least they can pay me without quitting"?
Why would corporate software be incentivized to recommend a pay band any higher than the least the employee would take? The incentives are not aligned
Suppose you are an employer and you have 5 junior engineers. You wish to promote one to senior engineer, which includes a move to a higher pay band. How do you decide which one gets the promotion?
Most companies are going to decide which one to promote at least partly based on performance data. Do they consistently finish things on time? What is the defect rate in their work? Do they work well with others? Do they need a lot of help compared to their peers or are the who their peers turn to when the peers need help? Does their work show skill above what would normally be found in junior engineer work?
From what has been quoted by or about the objects that one representative had it is that he thinks the bill has been written too broadly and could be construed as prohibiting using job performance data like that in deciding promotions.
Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would corporate software be incentivized to recommend a pay band any higher than the least the employee would take? The incentives are not aligned
Choosing a pay band based on performance and setting the pay bands as low as they can losing all their employees are orthogonal. Suppose you are an employer and you have 5 junior engineers. You wish to promote one to senior engineer, which includes a move to a higher pay band. How do you decide which one gets the promotion? Most companies are going to decide which one to promote at least partly based on performance d…
Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Choosing a pay band based on performance and setting the pay bands as low as they can losing all their employees are orthogonal. Suppose you are an employer and you have 5 junior engineers. You wish to promote one to senior engineer, which includes a move to a higher pay band. How do you decide which one gets the promotion? Most companies are going to decide which one to promote at least partly based on performance d…
My teamlead decides to promote me, not robots or algorithms.
Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can see how say, a roofing business might have a “VIP” sale during a slow season, such that a discounted contract is signed and money is exchanged in the future when the weather doesn’t prohibit the work. I don’t think that is unreasonable.
I can see how a roofing business might buy your online shopping history, deduce that you drive a Lexus, and bump up their prices. Then profile you as not very handy, and cut corners knowing you won’t spot the issues.
Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#59> Republican Rep. Chris Richardson, an Elbert County Republican, argued that the bill is too broad and could regulate standard analytic usage in the workplace, such as a human resources software that recommends a pay band for employees based on performance. He does not think this is is just selling it further? Oh no, it might prohibit software automatically determining my wages, how could we even have a society if we…
How do you get from "pay band [...] based on performance" to "least they can pay me without quitting"?
Re: Colorado House passes bill to limit surveillance pricing and wage setting
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can see how a roofing business might buy your online shopping history, deduce that you drive a Lexus, and bump up their prices. Then profile you as not very handy, and cut corners knowing you won’t spot the issues.
As opposed to just using Google Maps or driving by your house? Those options are a lot cheaper.