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Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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Feature request: Make it default behavior on phones that you can have multiple passwords, connected to different profiles. With no way to determine how many profiles a phone have. I'm sure there's some people here working on mobile operating systems, might be worth considering?

Software isn't going to save you in this scenario. If you're worried about local laws violating your privacy then buy a burner and only put data on there that's necessary for your travels.

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

#52
post #21

Feature request: Make it default behavior on phones that you can have multiple passwords, connected to different profiles. With no way to determine how many profiles a phone have. I'm sure there's some people here working on mobile operating systems, might be worth considering?

Veracrypt e.g. has had this for a long time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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How is "against democracies" even on topic here? Parent commentator said HK is now like the UK, why it matter how much of a democracy either of the places are? And no, it isn't a "nazi bar" just because someone disagrees with you, that's not how that label should be applied. Save it for actual nazis, otherwise you're doing the rest of us a huge disservice, as when there are actual nazis, people think we're talking op…

I strongly disagree with the parent poster, but they are deploying a specific term. Nazi Bar doesn't imply everyone within is a Nazi. It implies a bar that permits a Nazi to stay and drink. That Nazi will come back later with their friends who are also Nazis, and over time the bar will increasingly become funded by Nazis.

It's really really strange to use here, however, because this thread is about not giving in to authoritarianism. If you want to see intolerance, this person should go look at the recent transgender athletes thread. That post might actually be a "Nazi bar".

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

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post #21

Feature request: Make it default behavior on phones that you can have multiple passwords, connected to different profiles. With no way to determine how many profiles a phone have. I'm sure there's some people here working on mobile operating systems, might be worth considering?

"This profile doesn't have anything on it. Give us the password for the real profile." Or even worse, you did give them the real password, but because your phone supports the feature and your profile is kind of barren, they don't believe you. Now you are in a very bad lose-lose situation.

xkcd 538

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security.png

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

#56
post #45
post #36

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You have never crossed the border into the Great US of A then

It's possible to cross the border many times and not have this happen.

okay, but it is also possible to have it happen.

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

#57
post #16

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Roleplaying a parallel reallity where "Europe" is an oppressive totalitarian regime will never not be funny.

> Roleplaying a parallel reallity where "Europe" is an oppressive totalitarian regime will never not be funny. Roleplaying inability to read will never not be funny UK: https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/law-requiring-dis... France: https://www.fairtrials.org/articles/news/french-court-rules-... Ireland: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57468750

UK: Police can search phones to counteract human traffickers.

China: Police can search phones of dissidents, and jail them for life for criticising the Party.

You: Europe is worse than China (or will be really soon I promise).

Disingenuous.

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

#58
post #21

Feature request: Make it default behavior on phones that you can have multiple passwords, connected to different profiles. With no way to determine how many profiles a phone have. I'm sure there's some people here working on mobile operating systems, might be worth considering?

"This profile doesn't have anything on it. Give us the password for the real profile." Or even worse, you did give them the real password, but because your phone supports the feature and your profile is kind of barren, they don't believe you. Now you are in a very bad lose-lose situation.

So put stuff on it, duh

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

#59

No one likes when I say this but it's really past time to stop doing anything interesting on your phone. Delete all your apps, set it as minimally as possible. Leave it home when you go for walks, and power it off when you go driving or to the store, or whatever.

I'm starting to believe this is [a] way forward. Or maybe an approach which is on a spectrum between and .

Unfortunately, it's pretty common to only have a smartphone as your sole compute device, and increasingly onerous not to own one at all.

Re: Hong Kong police can now demand phone passwords under new security rules

#60
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Why are you misrepresenting about UK law? Yes, it can be a criminal offence. But the maximum tariff for this under RIPA 2000 is five years. If it’s not about nation security or CSAM, it’s two. (Incidentally, the USA is a real outlier in this topic)

Are we damning the UK with faint praise now? I'm not even sure how much practical difference there is between 5 and indefinite in practice, 5 years is a long time. I imagine it is pretty life-destroying. Especially for the crime of having something on your phone that you want to keep private. > If it’s not about nation security or CSAM, it’s two. I am sure we all get what you mean, but there is a comic interpretation…

You're unsure of the difference between 5 and infinity?
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