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Re: DoorDash Tasks

#51

If you haven’t figured it out by now the future of all work is transfer learning and encoding human action so that all possible action is mechanized and commoditized. I’ve been obsessed with this problem for the better part of 20 years The fact that we’re finally starting to see it realized is very exciting

You should be concerned and not excited. This future might be near than we can imagine and we're just accelerating things without thinking about the consequences.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Those jurisdictions stifle innovation. Thankfully, the vast majority of the US does not do that. Door Dashers in 99% of the US will now have a button to click that will put more money in their pockets. Very good!

Innovation in what exactly?

It's right there in the article. An innovative idea in the field of distributed labor, enabled by technology is being launched in the 99% of the US that allows ideas to be tried freely. I'm happy to see it!

Re: DoorDash Tasks

#53

Labour getting ever-granular in the age of micro-loans and RentAHuman. > "Dashers have a new way to earn on their own terms" The classic meaning inversion of precariousness and lack of benefits as a virtue.

It's also unlocking economic value that was impossible to realize in the old model. If you're sitting around your house with nothing to do for an hour you can now earn money in ways you couldn't before.

"Earn money" most markets are so saturated with drivers, nobody is making above minimum wage.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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Neither of these two things are something that DoorDash as a company can realistically do anything about.

DoorDash lobbies heavily against laws that would regulate labor, or classify its workers as “employees” and thus require they be covered by the minimal protections our country offers.

A lot of that is about medical insurance. Employers generally have to offer subsidized health plans to full-time employees. If we could break that policy linkage between employment and health plan coverage then it would reduce the importance of classifying workers as employees versus independent contractors.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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post #51

If you haven’t figured it out by now the future of all work is transfer learning and encoding human action so that all possible action is mechanized and commoditized. I’ve been obsessed with this problem for the better part of 20 years The fact that we’re finally starting to see it realized is very exciting

You should be concerned and not excited. This future might be near than we can imagine and we're just accelerating things without thinking about the consequences.

What specific consequences are you anticipating?

Re: DoorDash Tasks

#57
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There was a startup that did this in the mid 2010s named Magic, but was just via SMS. I used it a few times to get random things done, and it was really useful when it was cheap, then it became mega expensive.

I don't quite get how that would work. They were completing tasks to train models but via sms? Can you elaborate?

There's two seperate things DoorDash seems to be doing: "Tasks" in the physical world (taking photos of inventory on shelves, closing Waymo doors), and then some seperate app for training AI models.

As for Magic, they were an SMS-based virtual assistant. They still exist today. They went downhill. https://getmagic.com/

See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34148402

Re: DoorDash Tasks

#58

I had a terrible thought while out on a hike the other day. I'm almost loath to post it on HN because I worry some idiot is going to read it and think it's a good idea. On the other hand, if I thought of it, it's just a matter of time before someone else does. Here is the idea: programmers may move to a DoorDash like model as well in the future. You may have full time employment but it will be at a much lower base sa…

So... contractors? I don't understand how what you're describing is any different.

It's the same except much worse.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

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I had a terrible thought while out on a hike the other day. I'm almost loath to post it on HN because I worry some idiot is going to read it and think it's a good idea. On the other hand, if I thought of it, it's just a matter of time before someone else does. Here is the idea: programmers may move to a DoorDash like model as well in the future. You may have full time employment but it will be at a much lower base sa…

Congratulations, you invented Upwork!

Yes, sadly. Except what I'm imaging would be even worse.

Re: DoorDash Tasks

#60

Labour getting ever-granular in the age of micro-loans and RentAHuman. > "Dashers have a new way to earn on their own terms" The classic meaning inversion of precariousness and lack of benefits as a virtue.

It's also unlocking economic value that was impossible to realize in the old model. If you're sitting around your house with nothing to do for an hour you can now earn money in ways you couldn't before.

A laughable concept; absurd on its face. Just like the idea that uber is just suburban mums taking one or two trips on the way back from school.

It will absolutely be a full time, below minimum wage job that desperate people do. The same as uber, delivery drivers, and the entire rest of the gig economy

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