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Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by doubled112 »

kstrauser wrote: post #48
justech wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried atuin and then switched back to fzf[0]. It's less features but that's not necessarily a negative. [0] https://github.com/junegunn/fzf

Fzf doesn't let you sync your shell history, though. I self-host an Atuin server so that I can share that history across my various machines.

I also self host my own atuin server. It’s great.

I didn’t think syncing terminal history would be very useful until I tried it, but now I have a hard time when I don’t have it.

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by stevekemp »

kstrauser wrote: post #48
justech wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried atuin and then switched back to fzf[0]. It's less features but that's not necessarily a negative. [0] https://github.com/junegunn/fzf

Fzf doesn't let you sync your shell history, though. I self-host an Atuin server so that I can share that history across my various machines.

To be honest I find the things I do on my "work" laptop are different to the things I do on my "personal" laptop, and different again to what I do on my desktop machine.

Regardless of which machine I'm using at any given moment I appreciate having "endless history", and the ability to search/filter it. But despite that I don't think I need to actual sync that.

I'm sure there is value to be had from syncing and making all history unified, but it's never appealed to me particularly.

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by kstrauser »

doubled112 wrote: post #51
kstrauser wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fzf doesn't let you sync your shell history, though. I self-host an Atuin server so that I can share that history across my various machines.

I also self host my own atuin server. It’s great. I didn’t think syncing terminal history would be very useful until I tried it, but now I have a hard time when I don’t have it.

That was my experience. “Huh, what was that complicate thing I did on the database server?”

I have its search bound to ^r and use Fish shell’s own search for most things, with cross-machine search a keystroke away.

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by [deleted] »

Bnjoroge wrote: post #14
lta wrote: post #5

Why does every tool on the face of earth try to add AI features ? Good tools are simple and orthogonal. If you want AI, there's already plenty of other tools doing it probably better. I'm overall fairly disappointed by this announcement. This IMHO doesn't bode well

It’s fine - I like the introduction of AI. It’s optional - if you don’t want it, turn it off or don’t use it

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Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

#57

Post by imiric »

Bnjoroge wrote: post #13
duskdozer wrote: post #12

I was really pleased finding this last year, but I guess it's time to look for an alternative. I don't get why everything has to have AI shoved into it

It’s optional- you can choose to opt in or not.

That's a poor argument that doesn't change the fact that any feature requires maintenance time and effort which for some users could be better invested in features they actually use, in improving overall stability, reliability, performance, etc. The more such unused features a product has, the less relevant it is for those users.

The question is, was adding "AI" to this product requested by most users, or was it done to tick off a marketing checkbox and capitalize on the hype?

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by wswope »

duskdozer wrote: post #12

I was really pleased finding this last year, but I guess it's time to look for an alternative. I don't get why everything has to have AI shoved into it

Not to detract from your point, but I decided Atuin was feature complete enough for my liking over two years ago, and have been running the last v17 release ever since with zero problems.

You can still keep everything you like about the tool without issue, and to the devs’ credit, the sync server is some of the easiest software to self-host possible.

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

#59

Post by wswope »

imiric wrote: post #57
Bnjoroge wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s optional- you can choose to opt in or not.

That's a poor argument that doesn't change the fact that any feature requires maintenance time and effort which for some users could be better invested in features they actually use, in improving overall stability, reliability, performance, etc. The more such unused features a product has, the less relevant it is for those users. The question is, was adding "AI" to this product requested by most users, or was it done…

What stability, reliability, and performance problems are you hitting with Atuin?

I posted a longer comment upthread, but I’ve been self-hosting and running an old version for over two years now, and haven’t had any recurring problems on those fronts. It’s pretty damn stable software and everything they’ve been doing lately has just been extra features and gloss.

Re: Atuin v18.13 – better search, a PTY proxy, and AI for your shell

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Post by justech »

kstrauser wrote: post #48
justech wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried atuin and then switched back to fzf[0]. It's less features but that's not necessarily a negative. [0] https://github.com/junegunn/fzf

Fzf doesn't let you sync your shell history, though. I self-host an Atuin server so that I can share that history across my various machines.

Yeah, that's part of the "less features" I mentioned. I don't get any value from syncing shell history, but I can see why it's useful for some.
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