To be fair, is "with RL", "just"? They should have disclosed it though. If they didn't it's a bad look for sure.
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Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
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Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#52A hyped startup providing zero added value, burning investor money only to repackage somebody else's work? That's new... /s
It depends on what you consider value. People are using it so they find some value.
Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#53im pretty sure this is in violation of moonshot's ToS. this is going to be fun to watch unfold
At the same time, Moonshot violated Anthropic's ToS by training on their models' outputs :) [0]. And Anthropic violated copyright law by training on copyrighted material. It's violations all the way down. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47126614
I thought Anthopoc’s training was deemed fair used. It was the downloading that was illegal
Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#54There are many reasons to make fun of Cursor. However , one of the things get right is their autocomplete model. Are there any open models that come close? Why doesnt OAI or Anthropic dedicate some resources to blowing Cursor's model out of the water? Cursor's completion model is a sticking point for a lot of users.
Antigravity has an autocomplete model too. Based on Windsurf's, I guess.
Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#55There's no "just" in RL. Fine tuning is very important and could make a lot of difference.
Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
4th paragraph in license block Our only modification part is that, if the Software (or any derivative works thereof) is used for any of your commercial products or services that have more than 100 million monthly active users, or more than 20 million US dollars (or equivalent in other currencies) in monthly revenue, you shall prominently display "Kimi K2.5" on the user interface of such product or service.
That's not an open source license, then.
Why not?
Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#57There are many reasons to make fun of Cursor. However , one of the things get right is their autocomplete model. Are there any open models that come close? Why doesnt OAI or Anthropic dedicate some resources to blowing Cursor's model out of the water? Cursor's completion model is a sticking point for a lot of users.
Most companies don't do auto competition these days, including some that just recently stopped offering completion.
Which I find very unfortunate. There are so many cases, especially in proprietary codebases with non standard infrastructure, where good autocomplete is much better than "agentic" edits that produce nothing but slop which takes longer to clean up.
Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#58Moonshot is raising money at a 10B usd valuation, cursor/anysphere is at a 30B usd valuation.
Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#59A question. I’m due for a yearly Cursor subscription renewal, how does the credit limit look like? Currently I’ve not hit any of the limits despite using it quite rigorously, I wonder if this will change with a renewal?
But you have to buy into it right? If you don't have a limit then what did your contract look like?
Re: Cursor Composer 2 is just Kimi K2.5 with RL
#60Cursor Composer 1 was Qwen and this is Kimi. IDE is based on VSCode. The entire company is build on packaging open source and reselling it. Ollama is also doing this. There is so much money to be made repackaging open source these days. So funny to see Twitter go wild saying "a 50 person team just beat Anthropic" blah blah.
> Cursor Composer 1 was Qwen...
We know Composer 2 is Kimi K2.5 from that tweet. Where is the evidence for Composer 1 being based on Qwen?
> So funny to see Twitter go wild saying "a 50 person team just beat Anthropic" blah blah.
In this case, it will be the other way round: Anthropic will see Cursor as a competitor AI lab using open weight models for Composor 2 (actually Kimi K2.5) which was allegedly distilled from Opus 4.6, and would be enough for Anthropic to cut off Cursor from using any of models.
That's where it is going.