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Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by dawnerd »

yichk wrote: post #43
ShowalkKama wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.pornhub.com/blog/age-verification-in-the-news Over the past year, Pornhub had to make the difficult decision to block access to users in the following American states due to Age Verification laws: Alabama Arizona Arkansas Florida Georgia Idaho Indiana Kansas Kentucky Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska North Carolina North Dakota Oklahoma South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Virginia Wyoming

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I hate about full access to Reddit? Discord? Have you tried accessing the internet from a location with these laws in place?

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by dawnerd »

ars wrote: post #7

Free VPN's are usually funded by agreeing to route some VPN traffic for other people though your own network. They basically work as mixers, randomizing traffic throughout the VPN population. This can expose users to legal risks, but but can also add plausible deniability at the same time "it wasn't me, it was someone on VPN".

I’ve suspected that’s where these “ethical” (as they like to call it) residential proxy services get their access from. They’re really dodgy about it other than saying the people agree to it, which ya ok.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by encrypted_bird »

yichk wrote: post #43
ShowalkKama wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.pornhub.com/blog/age-verification-in-the-news Over the past year, Pornhub had to make the difficult decision to block access to users in the following American states due to Age Verification laws: Alabama Arizona Arkansas Florida Georgia Idaho Indiana Kansas Kentucky Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska North Carolina North Dakota Oklahoma South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Virginia Wyoming

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Oh shove off with this Puritan attitude. First off, you're implying most of PornHub is rape. That'a ridiculous; no one is uploading videos of actual rape to PornHub.

Secondly, porn ≠ abuse. It's an actual industry and so obviously the treatment of women varies by company.

Simply put, if you don't like porn, DON'T WATCH IT. Don't try to shove your personal beliefs on everyoje else.

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by aurareturn »

userbinator wrote: post #3

As a Firefox user: if I want a VPN I'll use an actual VPN. Focus on making a great browser, and not all this distraction. Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"

  Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"
HN is "free" too. :)

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by mentalgear »

aurareturn wrote: post #55
userbinator wrote: post #3

As a Firefox user: if I want a VPN I'll use an actual VPN. Focus on making a great browser, and not all this distraction. Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"

Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold" HN is "free" too. :)

At least free to data mine by everyone (as far as I know).

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by echoangle »

chii wrote: post #18
crummy wrote: post #13

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> "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold" This must apply to Firefox itself, right?

of course it does. Why do you think google buys the rights to firefox's search bar (as a default setting)?

Don’t they buy the search bar to have another competitor and not get forced to give away chrome for antitrust reasons? I don’t think they care about the search bar THAT much, it’s basically a donation right?

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by Incipient »

hvb2 wrote: post #40
chii wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

of course it does. Why do you think google buys the rights to firefox's search bar (as a default setting)?

That's not remotely the same? A default setting that can easily be changed for a feature the vendor didn't have a solution for? To give you an example. Try to use Google Search without sending your data to Google. You cannot use the product without it, you cannot opt out. Firefox, you can use just fine with Google not being your search engine.

It isn't the same, but it's comparable.

Google is paying Mozilla to be the default search engine. Google is only paying Mozilla because Firefox has users, regardless if they use the default search engine or not. So, indirectly everyone is the 'product'.

I'm sure if 95% of people did swap to ddg, then google may change their mind.

Also I believe there is the possibility Google also pays Mozilla to offer competition so Chrome isn't considered a monopoly (but maybe Edge has changed that to some extent?)

Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149

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Post by chii »

echoangle wrote: post #57
chii wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

of course it does. Why do you think google buys the rights to firefox's search bar (as a default setting)?

Don’t they buy the search bar to have another competitor and not get forced to give away chrome for antitrust reasons? I don’t think they care about the search bar THAT much, it’s basically a donation right?

> for antitrust reasons?

well, a benefit is a benefit. It doesn't really matter how it manifests does it? It's not a donation, as it is not altruistic.

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