The usual line is "the regulations are written in blood", and it's a cliche because it's true.
The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
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Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't have examples of tweets handy, but here are stickers that get you 2 years in UK jail: They reportedly contained slogans such as “We will be a minority in our homeland by 2066”, “Mass immigration is white genocide”, “intolerance is a virtue” and “they seek conquest not asylum.” Sources: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-68448867 (does not quote a single sticker that he was jailed for) https://www.gbnew…
Ahh, the famous "criminal damage is tweeting" case
"putting stickers on things is criminal damage deserving of prison time" is no better of a position
But we should probably pay attention to what was written on the stickers.
Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
#53As someone who has looked at things like Renewable energy deployments within the UK, this is a pattern that seems to be quite pervasive across all industries. The byzantine web of planning approvals, goose counting, public outcry that you have to deal with to deploy essentially a relatively small solar farm is monstrous. What that results with is that the only people capable of creating & managing these processes hav…
Have you tried the "forgiveness is easier than permission" approach? What would happen if you just installed the solar panels? I know that in some countries they'd come by with a bulldozer and tear them down again - is your country one of those?
"Forgiveness is easier than permission" only makes sense when you know what you're doing and understand the consequences. (IE, paying taxes a little late in the US is okay because the fine is roughly the same as the interest of holding the money in the bank.)
In the case of solar panels, I'm going to assume the OP is talking about something like a grid-scale solar farm instead of rooftop solar production:
1: You need an agreement with "the grid" to get payment for the electricity you generate.
2: Feeding electricity into a power grid is a very dangerous thing, at a minimum the grid operator needs to make sure you aren't going to cause a fire or otherwise break their equipment.
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That being said: If you're a homeowner trying to set up a small solar installation, you can pair the panels with batteries and skip feeding into the grid.
Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
The healthcare industry in the US in made up a huge range of individual and organizations, they don’t all have the same motives. Suggesting otherwise is projecting your own fears not representative of reality.
>they don’t all have the same motives Regardless of their motives they're all subject to the same regulatory system so they can only stray so far for so long from the net effect of the incentives and remain not bankrupt and being auctioned to pay back creditors.
>they're all subject to the same regulatory system
I mean different countries have different regulatory systems....
Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ahh, the famous "criminal damage is tweeting" case
"putting stickers on things is criminal damage deserving of prison time" is no better of a position But we should probably pay attention to what was written on the stickers.
America literally jails people for quoting the US president
The UK jails people for extreme incitement
Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
The healthcare industry in the US in made up a huge range of individual and organizations, they don’t all have the same motives. Suggesting otherwise is projecting your own fears not representative of reality.
Then feel free to point out the outliers that aren't interested in maximizing profits. https://www.somo.nl/big-pharma-raked-in-usd-90-billion-in-pr... It seems to me that the leading vaccine manufacturers, who spend billions of dollars yearly in order to lobby US lawmakers that establish the bureaucracy the article is complaining about, are interested in just that (maximizing profits). It doesn't really matter much i…
A large portion of the US healthcare is through nonprofits who are more interested in continuing to exist than in maximizing profits.
Vaccine companies are very interested in preventing disease not the kind of extended treatment people so often expect the healthcare industry to be looking for. They have an endless stream of new people being born every year so have no interest in people getting sick.
Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
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Because they were fighting for half the population, and they demonstrably lost. We now have pre-1975 law, including horrific laws like Texas creating task forces hunting out women with miscarriages and abortions in other states. They could have made the 'umbrella' of what they were fighting for cover 100% of the population. They didn't. We're all worse for it.
> They could have made the 'umbrella' of what they were fighting for cover 100% of the population [...] They didn't. We're all worse for it. Other people could have stood by them and fought for those rights too. You're blaming the wrong people. Regardless of your intentions, you're not coming across well. I'd urge you to try reframing this, as you're not going to win many supporters outside of the alt-right pipeline…
And its already flagged, but I'll respond to you anyways.
So yeah, it was a complaint towards the 2nd wave, only because they did identify it as a woman's issue. Men weren't the scope of their grievance, which is fine to identify.
What I'm saying is that the whole birth control and abortion debate is a subset of bodily autonomy. It also covers trans rights. Also covers suicide rights. Covers self-medication and experimentation.
I have in the back of my fridge a few sets of day-after pills, in case any of my friends have any issues that need resolved.
I'm also aware and support the works of Four Thieves Vinegar collective, and their misoprostl abortion cards, and also diy chemistry.
I would support birth control and abortion rights as inherent as bodily autonomy. I just felt their limited scope is what striated the public (well, men) from supporting it. And now we're in a really really bad place with abortion banned in multiple states, and women dying due to not getting needed care.
Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you ever considered that once a disease is cured, the industry can no longer profit off of it being a disease? Treating disease rather than curing it, is a much more profitable venture. How is there money to be had in curing HIV? It seems to me like it's much more profitable to continue selling expensive HIV treatments rather than curing the disease. Once a patient is cured, they no longer need to pay for expens…
So you think that complicated diseases are easily curable and the entire scientific world, including very different countries like China, has just decided to hide the knowledge? If your cynical take was correct, there would be no cures ever. And yet there are new ones all the time. For example, vaccines. There are way, way more vaccines developed in the 21st century than in the 250 years before that. Vaccines against…
Plus even if we posit nefarious forces, we should also account for nefarious forces which want the sickness gone.
If you're seriously sick you aren't making money because you can't work or all your money goes to Evil Pharma Co, then the Evil Government doesn't like that, because they can't wring taxes out of you. (Which they prefer since it's easier than fighting Evil Pharma Co.)
Meanwhile, The Shadow Government wants you to be healthy enough to work every day, or else they won't finish the navigation beacons for the alien invasion.
Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then feel free to point out the outliers that aren't interested in maximizing profits. https://www.somo.nl/big-pharma-raked-in-usd-90-billion-in-pr... It seems to me that the leading vaccine manufacturers, who spend billions of dollars yearly in order to lobby US lawmakers that establish the bureaucracy the article is complaining about, are interested in just that (maximizing profits). It doesn't really matter much i…
A large portion of the US healthcare is through nonprofits who are more interested in continuing to exist than in maximizing profits. Vaccine companies are very interested in preventing disease not the kind of extended treatment people so often expect the healthcare industry to be looking for. They have an endless stream of new people being born every year so have no interest in people getting sick.
If people aren't getting sick, they have no revenue stream. Those non-profits you mentioned obviously aren't as capable of lobbying congress to influence industry regulation / bureaucracy as for-profit organizations are.
Re: The bureaucracy blocking the chance at a cure
#60As someone who has looked at things like Renewable energy deployments within the UK, this is a pattern that seems to be quite pervasive across all industries. The byzantine web of planning approvals, goose counting, public outcry that you have to deal with to deploy essentially a relatively small solar farm is monstrous. What that results with is that the only people capable of creating & managing these processes hav…
To play the devils advocate, in places with low bureaucracy most of the risk taken is not innovation. It's just risk that leads to the death of others. Buildings with shitty concrete with too little rebar in it. Electrical wiring that will kill you. Improper foundations and such. At the end of the day there is no simple answer here. It's no different than the talks about AI that dominate HN these days. You can build…
The devil doesn't need any more advocates.