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Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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I adore their courage. I assume they feel prepared to mount a legal defense? It would seem silly to be this forward about willful noncompliance if they're just hoping to stay under the radar. I can't tell if this is driven by impulsive pettiness with no real plan for how to mount a legal defense, or if they're engaging in a clear-minded legal mission. > Ageless Linux is a registered operating system under the definit…

The truly aggravating part is that if they really wanted to thumb their noses at the Attorney General's office and get away with it there's a pretty straightforward way to do it: Fork every single project they want to offer through their operating system and thereby become a first-party developer-distributor thereof. AB 1043 is worded in such a way that it really doesn't apply if the operating system developer doesn't provide a covered application store (see 1798.501(a)(1)). This should apply in every other such app store accountability act in every other state (save Texas, since this is the text they seemed to adopt after the Texas law was challenged). Instead, all they're going to accomplish is getting pimpslapped by the Attorney General's office.

Maybe they're interested in performative noncompliance, but I'm not. I'd rather engage in creative and effective noncompliance.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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I feel like I need to read the prompt to understand what this website wants me to download here. What is it installing? What is it promoting?

It's obviously vibecoded; the prose is uncanny and grating in a very characteristic way. Easiest tell is how it names the "three device tiers" like a millennial burger joint started by "two crazy guys with a dream".

It's shocking how few people here seem to notice it, you would expect people using claude et al all day could feel the distinct smell of slop.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Why should that be our problem when we can just tell parents to parent?

I know this wasn't your point (and I agree with you here), but I heard the exact same thing, word for word, when the Catholic priest was just breaking.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

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Well, this mandatory age input won't help with that, either. The parental controls are a much more powerful version. So I guess you're in favor of more strict version of this, and hope that we'll slippery-slope our way to it eventually? How do you propose to do that without ending internet anonymity for everyone?

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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If the solution consists on me and my children sacrificing our privacy then I'm sorry, but I don't care about other people's children getting groomed. Your child, your responsibility, prepare him better for the world or throw the god damn phone to the trash, but please leave me alone. I had more sympathy for parents with this problem before, but not anymore. If they don't respect my rights, I don't see why I should c…

Other people’s kids aren’t your problem until they grow up and form a deeply unfit electorate and their country, representing less than 5% of the world population, makes an absolute mess of everything. Then they become everyone’s problem.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

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Are you talking about Epstein, or something else? Epstein largely built his network through word of mouth.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

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Cite?

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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post #14

Something remarkable and unsettling is how the age verification debate has popped up almost simultaneously in the US, UK, and EU. With the same logical fallacies. Pretty telling about how transnational lobbies and their interests work. Controlling what children do online is a solved problem: Parenting and parental control applications.

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You're going to need to provide a source for that outrageous claim.

Also, which sites that are impacted by the age verification laws are involved in grooming in any way?

Please be specific.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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If the solution consists on me and my children sacrificing our privacy then I'm sorry, but I don't care about other people's children getting groomed. Your child, your responsibility, prepare him better for the world or throw the god damn phone to the trash, but please leave me alone. I had more sympathy for parents with this problem before, but not anymore. If they don't respect my rights, I don't see why I should c…

> I don't care about other people's children getting groomed.

These other people’s children will be your own children’s bullies tomorrow and narcissistic bosses and politicians or similar gang members the day after.

Fact is, we need to find solutions against child abuse in any shape or form that work given the circumstances and decision making of other people around us. We do not exist in isolation. I don’t think age verification in any way contributes positively to this problem space, and I don’t even think online grooming is near any top spot on the list of child abuse vectors that need addressing, but that doesn’t mean that the problem and our contribution to it (like looking away and doing nothing) should be denied as a whole.

Re: Ageless Linux – Software for humans of indeterminate age

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Jurisdictions are already lining up to slide down the slope as fast as they can. New York intends to mandate real verification and anti-circumvention measures at the OS level. There is no room for compromise: any jurisdiction attempting to compel what must be included in an OS is batshit insane and normalizing this is going to very quickly lead to JesusTracker.exe being mandated by Texas and CrocCam.exe by Florida. C…

Average Joe thinks age verification is already palatable. Average Joe is happy to give away a photo of his ID. The alternative to OS age attestation isn't no age verification. It's almost every site, and every piece of internet-connected software, demanding your ID. Putting your age into your user account is not the same thing.

> Average Joe is happy to give away a photo of his ID.

I don't think this is actually true. Discord walked back its implementation of global age verification for now because it was protested so heavily. Governments can get away with mandating ID for porn sites and Average Joe will not make a ruckus about it because it's a shameful/embarrassing topic they would rather sweep under the rug, but I don't think Average Joe is on board with ID verification to use their computer just yet.

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