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Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by LightBug1 »

echelon wrote: post #42
tw-20260303-001 wrote: post #29

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Power is power. The US has due process, judicial transparency, and free speech. There are still rich people that operate above the system, but they're largely still accountable and the free press can crucify them. Authoritarian regimes have execution vans, no freedom of the press, no free speech, and a paranoid leadership that will jail or kill anyone who threatens their power. They lock citizens inside and prohibit…

"they're largely still accountable and the free press can crucify them".

Cute.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by jas- »

cwillu wrote: post #32
modeless wrote: post #10

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Did you read the first sentence? > In this piece, two researchers from PLA-affiliated National University of Defense Technology argue that

Did you stop reading at the first sentence??

Yes. It is the equivalent of reading a technical review of a product by the product owner

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by ch4s3 »

phpnode wrote: post #39
nradov wrote: post #35

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SpaceX already does geo-lock them to an extend. But the terminals are exported to so many countries that any meaningful controls are impossible.

The terminal knows where it is at all times.

Yes but the problem is that the battle lines are fluid and the drones are obviously aiming for the Ukrainian side.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by wmf »

phpnode wrote: post #39
nradov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SpaceX already does geo-lock them to an extend. But the terminals are exported to so many countries that any meaningful controls are impossible.

The terminal knows where it is at all times.

I know this is a meme but for those at home the whole point of a war is to cross over the front line into the opponent's territory and capture it. If your comms are disabled when you cross the front you can't really fight. So "just disable Starlink within Russian territory" does not solve anything.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by mort96 »

phpnode wrote: post #39
nradov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SpaceX already does geo-lock them to an extend. But the terminals are exported to so many countries that any meaningful controls are impossible.

The terminal knows where it is at all times.

The Starlink terminal can't know based on only its position which side it's being used by. Equipment is often used in enemy territory.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by morkalork »

phpnode wrote: post #39
nradov wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SpaceX already does geo-lock them to an extend. But the terminals are exported to so many countries that any meaningful controls are impossible.

The terminal knows where it is at all times.

It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by wmf »

hparadiz wrote: post #43
phpnode wrote: post #39

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The terminal knows where it is at all times.

I think what's actually funnier is that the satellite shooting the laser has to know where the terminal is with pin point accuracy too. So it's pretty easy to cut off targeting to a vast chunk of the planet.

Starlink cells are ~15 miles wide BTW.

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by zoklet-enjoyer »

morkalork wrote: post #56
phpnode wrote: post #39

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The terminal knows where it is at all times.

It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't

I understand this reference

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by phpnode »

wmf wrote: post #54
phpnode wrote: post #39

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The terminal knows where it is at all times.

I know this is a meme but for those at home the whole point of a war is to cross over the front line into the opponent's territory and capture it. If your comms are disabled when you cross the front you can't really fight. So "just disable Starlink within Russian territory" does not solve anything.

You can have a hybrid approach - deny access in that area by default but have a secure way to whitelist specific terminals for short periods (mission duration)

Re: Starlink militarization and its impact on global strategic stability (2023)

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Post by wood_spirit »

nradov wrote: post #36
mistrial9 wrote: post #19

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this is very difficult to address with intellectual honesty. It seems obvious to me that people of conscience and standing have built plenty of the most cutting edge tech of this age. Yet those people are structurally embedded within business and government. Far-reaching technology is one thing, but satellite networks are especially impactful in many ways for both real time intelligence gathering and also building a…

The US Federal government has done a lot to save the whales. https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/national/marine-mammal-protec...

Krill baby krill?

The current administration is openly extractive without the fig leaves of old.

I don’t think we can look forward to nature - whether it’s national parks or marine parks or just being a non polluting neighbor - getting any priority or protection from now onwards.

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