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Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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Note that the headline isn't about how effective hitting those targets was, or how successful at achieving its aims the bombing campaign was.

They hit 1000 targets in 24 hours. And yet, a week later, the Iranian regime is intact, American allies are still under constant bombardment, interceptor stocks are running low, and half of America's long-range, high-altitude transportable radar have been destroyed.

This looks like shooting the broad side of a barn, and then painting bullseyes around every bullet hole.

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this mean? I know he has a weaponry startup, Anduril, that has some Palantir financial ties. But I don't see the connection in the article.

I think they mean a general “anti war machine” sentiment in this forum. +1 to that sentiment from me, we are going quickly from “clean nuclear power” to “big bombs!”

I see. Thanks.

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

#53
This article is a total overstatement designed to boost stock prices and none of the actual users can counter the claim because it would require revealing classified information.

This is the same kind of claim you’ve all seen before about AI systems doing something amazing and it’s really just a bunch of people sitting in a call center in a third world country controlling the system remotely.

Only in this case it’s a bunch of senior airmen and staff sergeants sitting in an intel shop doing all the work. Sure, Palantir made a UI but it just plain sucks. And Claude probably fixed some typos in the targeting packages. But let’s not believe that either system was influential to target selection. CENTCOM created a similar number of targets at the beginning of the Syrian civil war before any of these LLMs existed and it took a similar amount of time. We ended up not striking them, but the plans were made after Assad used chemical weapons. All the fixed locations in Iran had packages written and sitting on the shelf before Trump was even elected the first time. The AI in this war added basically no value.

Any claim that Palantir did something useful for the government should immediately be viewed as suspect. I’ve used their software, and it sucks. I cannot understand how they got such big contracts to make a shitty UI that poorly integrates other systems’ data.

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

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post #25

I'm really curious to understand why this was done and why it was necessary. I cannot imagine the AI was used to identify targets without any base information. ie, I imagine the military already had a list of targets and locations. How would the AI know from satellite imagery that something was a military target. If that's the case, why did they need help selecting targets? I can only imagine that the military bases…

This is wild guess. I'm working with GIS and Claude has proven to be extremely savvy. I can see operators throwing hundreds of layers and coming back with a "there a possible military installation here". Same tech that is used to find unregulated pools, or measuring the density of parking lots, or Nazca lines, but much more on demand for specific purposes. Just to clarify, I don't condone the use of AI for guessing t…

You may be grossly overestimating the amount of thought than went into this:

"For instance, Israel has bombed a park in Tehran called "Police park." It has nothing to do with the police."[1]

1. https://x.com/tparsi/status/2029555364262228454

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

#57
Even if you don't care about the needless human suffering the US has caused from this operation, this conflict threatens global stability because of oil supply disruptions, and if the US keeps this up it could get quite bad very quickly.

I worked briefly in defense-tech and there is a huge blindspot in this field. While I worked with a ton of thoughtful, ethical, and talented people from the military, there is a veritable blind spot when it comes to support of the "warfighter." It is certainly noble and worthwhile work to protect soldiers from harm through technology, but I got some sense some people (actually especially the tech people who were never in the military) didn't think enough about the ethical concerns when dealing with people attached to the US's "enemies." And further, what about when the US itself is the aggressor? While active warfighters have to follow chain of command, companies can and should apply ethical constraints--but they often don't because DoD contracts are lucrative and (especially if you're not a prime) hard won.

I've had a lot of fun playing with Claude 4.6, but it is entirely unacceptable that this technology is being used in this conflict with Iran. I will cancel my account once this month's subscription is up in 2 weeks. The US is the aggressor here, that is certain. Support of this conflict as a private company that supposedly is oriented toward ethics is extremely illuminating.

Now with that, I have thought a tremendous amount about whether someone like Dario could even steer the ship away from support of a conflict like this at this point. We are all susceptible to market forces, and companies like Anthropic need as much revenue as possible to be able to maintain themselves and grow given the cost of training. There is certainly an argument to be made that if he did so, he might lose confidence of investors and lose control entirely. This begs the question: is shareholder/capital optimization the best way to organize our society?

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

#58

Whoa, near the top of the front page, and then immediately pushed to the second page of hacker news. Yikes.

This would be a really interesting topic to explore from a pure intellectual curiosity perspective. How/why/when this could be used, what could be the ramifications, do other entities also do this, would using a "dumber" but non "safety" aligned model work differently, etc. There are so many things to think about here. Unfortunately it seems that most of the commenters are going for the political / emotional jabs. Oh well.

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

#59

I’m guessing there won’t be a lot of Palmer Luckey fans among the commenters here

I'm actually a fan of his and on his side. But I also definitely do not believe these things are accurate enough to perform this kind of task yet.

Re: Palantir and Anthropic AI helped the US hit 1k Iran targets in 24 hours

#60

So will there be droves of people canceling their Claude subscription too? None of these companies are clean and I think it’s hilarious HN and the rest of SV has been duped by Dario. He’s playing the game better than Sam is, imo. Nothing Dario has said has indicated he is regretful about their partnership with Palantir or any of the stuff they’ve done with the DoD in the past 2.5 years. Edit: this Washington Post art…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit

" Frankfurt determines that bullshit is speech intended to persuade without regard for truth. The liar cares about the truth and attempts to hide it; the bullshitter doesn't care whether what they say is true or false."

This quote comes to mind whenever Dario Amodei opens his mouth.

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