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Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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This is kind of a misleading title. While they "ended" the 30-percent cut, they are keeping a 20-percent cut.

worse title I've seen in a while

It would have been about Apple it probably would have said "Apple starts charging 20% fees on the AppStore"

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google changed the way their are the Gatekeepers. It now is tied to requiring a software developer ID attached to a real person; Developer Verification. [0] And how side-loading will have to go through ADB versus just allowing the application to be installed by a file manager. This is why GrapheneOS and /e/OS have been popping up, along with Linux based alternatives. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47251763

Google partially walked that back and now says there will still be a way for end users to enable sideloading for apps without developer verification (unclear what that will look like though): Based on this feedback and our ongoing conversations with the community, we are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified. We are designing this flo…

According to keepandroidopen.org they haven't updated their wording yet and no real movement has happened to implement this

> Google’s description of the program ↗ continues to state plainly that:

    "Starting in September 2026, Android will require all apps to be registered by verified developers in order to be installed on certified Android devices"

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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> For any developers interested in offering their own app store, Google says it'll launch its Registered App Stores program "with a version of a major Android release" before the end of the year. According to the company, the program will be available in other regions first before it comes to the US. From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37843650 : > What's a ballpark figure for what the monthly cost to Fdroid wo…

F-Droid build APKs themselves from source, so presumably 0, as they don't allow APKs to be uploaded.

F-Droid does do some safety checks themselves already too, I don't know exactly what.

Edit: Perhaps I am mistaken... but I think the linked post was referring to users adding additional repos to the F-Droid store, not the default F-Droid repo??

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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How would Google know how much money any app not using their billing system is getting?

Maybe they audit you when something smells funny and it becomes worth it for them? Microsoft don't set EY (other hired gun auditers may apply) on every small company to check they are activating Windows correctly.

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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This together with Valve's work on Fex may mean that Android users will be able to install Steam on their devices

Fex is not coming to Android https://wiki.fex-emu.com/index.php/FAQ

> This page was last edited on 22 October 2023, at 09:05.

Since then:

> In Android 16, Google expanded the "Linux Terminal" feature, which was initially introduced in Android 15 QPR2 beta, allowing users to run Linux applications within a virtual machine on their devices. This feature utilizes the Android Virtualization Framework (AVF) to create a Debian-based environment where users can execute Linux commands and graphical applications. The guest operating system is fully isolated by the hypervisor (KVM or gunyah) and manages its own resources with its own Linux kernel. Notably, it supports running classic software such as Doom, demonstrating its ability to run full desktop applications.

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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post #14

This is kind of a misleading title. While they "ended" the 30-percent cut, they are keeping a 20-percent cut.

> This is kind of a misleading title Kind of is doing a lot of work there. This might be THE most misleading title I heard. Jumping into this thread I expected they went from 30% to 0% not 20% so I appreciate your comment for giving me more context. Can Dang or HN moderation team fix the title to better reflect the true state and not be misleading as it currently is? thanks in advance!

Or better yet, remove it all together. Why promote this type of deceivement?

It looks to be a pretty massive messaging compaign promoting this deceptive wording.

Re: Google ends its 30 percent app store fee and welcomes third-party app stores

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The majority of which is going directly to Visa, Amex, Mastercard.

i dont believe any of those companies take anywhere near a 20% cut per transaction

Also, iOS App Store and Google Play Store aren't just straight payment processing, they are Merchant of Record.
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