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Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by tombert »

I have the ThinkPad p16s AMD gen 2. What it lacks in name it makes up for with being the most headache-free computer I have ever had (including a Macbook).

Everything works pretty well out of the box, it never really overheats, Linux support required basically no effort with NixOS, the keyboard feels pretty nice, the screen is bright and easy to read, and fortunately I bought it when RAM prices weren't insane so I got the 64GB model.

I haven't tried repairing it yet but considering how well it's been working I'm not even sure I'll need ever need to. If this laptop gets stolen, I will likely just buy another ThinkPad, I'm a complete convert.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by idle_zealot »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #49
alabhyajindal wrote: post #4

Nice very cool. Unfortunately, the blog post looks like it's been generated by an LLM. > Going from a high score to the highest score isn’t usually about making minor tweaks. It requires fighting for every small, boring, consequential decision—the ones that determine whether a repair isn’t merely possible or practical, but within easy reach.

I, as a non-native speaker, don't associate this with LLMs, but with corporate advertising texts.

They're basically the same thing. Machine language, just generated by a different kind of machine, one social, the other a transformer model.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by basch »

koyote wrote: post #33
p1necone wrote: post #18

Damn, everyone is using AI for copyediting now aren't they? Once you notice the patterns you see it everywhere. * "This isn't X. It's Y" * "Some sentence emphasizing something. Describing the same thing with different framing. Describing it a third time but punchier. * The em-dash of course * A hard to describe sense of "cheesiness" I only hope the models get good enough to not be so samey in the future.

What annoys me the most is that the information has become much less dense. There's a lot of unnecessary repetition. I feel like I need to feed every article through an LLM just to get a summary of it.

If only a human could edit the output before posting.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by thrdbndndn »

tombert wrote: post #51

I have the ThinkPad p16s AMD gen 2. What it lacks in name it makes up for with being the most headache-free computer I have ever had (including a Macbook). Everything works pretty well out of the box, it never really overheats, Linux support required basically no effort with NixOS, the keyboard feels pretty nice, the screen is bright and easy to read, and fortunately I bought it when RAM prices weren't insane so I go…

Majority of laptops works "pretty well out of the box".

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by system2 »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #54
tombert wrote: post #51

I have the ThinkPad p16s AMD gen 2. What it lacks in name it makes up for with being the most headache-free computer I have ever had (including a Macbook). Everything works pretty well out of the box, it never really overheats, Linux support required basically no effort with NixOS, the keyboard feels pretty nice, the screen is bright and easy to read, and fortunately I bought it when RAM prices weren't insane so I go…

Majority of laptops works "pretty well out of the box".

I urge you to try HP.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by system2 »

varispeed wrote: post #25
Daz912 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why are you so negative?

Probably because this is not repairability, but rather dividing device into smaller not repairable parts that can be replaced by purchasing parts from the manufacturer at inflated cost.

Is there any laptop that you can replace individual pieces of the motherboard? Laptop motherboards are all the same.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by _ache_ »

I switch from ThinkPad to Framework because they couldn't send me a replacement keyboard. They want me to send the keyboard back to get a refund but I never receive it so... I never did get a refund.

Later, Framework send me a laptop in 1 week and later a replacement screen in less then a week. It's been 3 years ago now.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by tombert »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #54
tombert wrote: post #51

I have the ThinkPad p16s AMD gen 2. What it lacks in name it makes up for with being the most headache-free computer I have ever had (including a Macbook). Everything works pretty well out of the box, it never really overheats, Linux support required basically no effort with NixOS, the keyboard feels pretty nice, the screen is bright and easy to read, and fortunately I bought it when RAM prices weren't insane so I go…

Majority of laptops works "pretty well out of the box".

Not with Linux, typically. If you don't have drivers included in the kernel, it requires a lot of effort to get things working. I've done it many times, so now I will generally only buy laptops that have decent Linux support. [1]

I've had the laptop for about two years now and it still runs just as well as the day I bought it. I'm very happy with it.

[1] No I will not stick with Windows. Please feel free to read through my comment history to see why, but TL;DR I just don't like it.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by cookiengineer »

system2 wrote: post #55
thrdbndndn wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Majority of laptops works "pretty well out of the box".

I urge you to try HP.

^ this comment is more relevant than people might think. HP regularly deploys broken BIOS updates and literally bricks your laptops. Happened in 2023 I think 7 times that year, and one time even right in the next week. Our IT got so fed up and ditched any HP laptops because of it.

Re: Lenovo’s new ThinkPads score 10/10 for repairability

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Post by latexr »

p1necone wrote: post #18

Damn, everyone is using AI for copyediting now aren't they? Once you notice the patterns you see it everywhere. * "This isn't X. It's Y" * "Some sentence emphasizing something. Describing the same thing with different framing. Describing it a third time but punchier. * The em-dash of course * A hard to describe sense of "cheesiness" I only hope the models get good enough to not be so samey in the future.

> I only hope the models get good enough to not be so samey in the future.

Why would you hope to be more easily fooled?

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