Meanwhile, somebody put 8192 arm cores on a chip and ran a risc-v emulator on top of that which emulated a 6502 which then emulated a 288 core xeon and it used 0.01% of the power and outperformed the Intel chip in every other metric 10:1, probably.
Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
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Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#52Am I the only one disappointed they didn't settle for 286 cores?
Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#53With packages like this (lots of cores, multi-chip packaging, lots of memory channels), the architecture is increasingly a small cluster on a package rather than a monolithic CPU. I wonder whether the next bottleneck becomes software scheduling rather than silicon - OS/runtimes weren’t really designed with hundreds of cores and complex interconnect topologies in mind.
The bottlenecks are pretty much hardware-related - thermal, power, memory and other I/O. Because of this, you presumably never get true "288 core" performance out of this - as in, it's not going to mine Bitcoin 288 as fast as a single core. Instead, you have less context-switching overhead with 288 tasks that need to do stuff intermittently, which is how most hardware ends up being used anyway.
Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
E core vs P core is an internal power struggle between two design teams that looks on the surface like ARM’s big.LITTLE approach
E cores ruined P cores by forcing the removal of AVX-512 from consumer P cores Which is why I used AMD in my last desktop computer build
Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#55These sorts of core-density increases are how I win cloud debates in an org. * Identify the workloads that haven't scaled in a year. Your ERPs, your HRIS, your dev/stage/test environments, DBs, Microsoft estate, core infrastructure, etc. (EDIT, from zbentley: also identify any cross-system processing where data will transfer from the cloud back to your private estate to be excluded, so you don't get murdered with egr…
Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#56These sorts of core-density increases are how I win cloud debates in an org. * Identify the workloads that haven't scaled in a year. Your ERPs, your HRIS, your dev/stage/test environments, DBs, Microsoft estate, core infrastructure, etc. (EDIT, from zbentley: also identify any cross-system processing where data will transfer from the cloud back to your private estate to be excluded, so you don't get murdered with egr…
Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#57Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#58These sorts of core-density increases are how I win cloud debates in an org. * Identify the workloads that haven't scaled in a year. Your ERPs, your HRIS, your dev/stage/test environments, DBs, Microsoft estate, core infrastructure, etc. (EDIT, from zbentley: also identify any cross-system processing where data will transfer from the cloud back to your private estate to be excluded, so you don't get murdered with egr…
For those that do, your scaling example works against you. If today you can merge three services into one, then why do you need full time infrastructure staff to manage so few servers? And remember, you want 24/7 monitoring, replication for disaster recovery, etc. Most businesses do not have IT infrastructure as a core skill or differentiator, and so they want to farm it out.
Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#59Meanwhile, somebody put 8192 arm cores on a chip and ran a risc-v emulator on top of that which emulated a 6502 which then emulated a 288 core xeon and it used 0.01% of the power and outperformed the Intel chip in every other metric 10:1, probably.
Re: Intel's make-or-break 18A process node debuts for data center with 288-core Xeon
#60With packages like this (lots of cores, multi-chip packaging, lots of memory channels), the architecture is increasingly a small cluster on a package rather than a monolithic CPU. I wonder whether the next bottleneck becomes software scheduling rather than silicon - OS/runtimes weren’t really designed with hundreds of cores and complex interconnect topologies in mind.