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Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by saltwounds »

kkylin wrote: post #34
spudlyo wrote: post #18

I'm about to head to the gym with my 12.9-inch 2017 vintage iPad Pro, which is still going strong. I prop it up on the elliptical trainer every other day or so for entertaining me while I grind out an hour of cardio. I use it for reading, watching YouTube, listening to music, audiobooks, etc. It's been my regular gym buddy for years, and is showing no signs of needing to be replaced. It's stuck on iPadOS 17.7.10, whi…

I had an even older iPad I was happily using for similar use cases. Until one day a family member bricked it and I needed to factory reset. No big deal, I thought -- nothing important on it. Turns out it needed to phone home to do the factory reset, and since the server it wanted to talk to was no longer up (or perhaps the address changed?) I couldn't factory reset the iPad. If someone has a work-around I'd love to h…

You should be able to DFU, but when it phones home it'll require a software upgrade

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by Hamuko »

magnio wrote: post #23

To me, the tablet form factor is dead with the arrival of the trifold. 90% of the people who use tablets I know (including myself) only has four use case: watching video, reading PDF and comics, taking notes, and playing mobile games. All of which are very mobile-oriented tasks that are done on tablets solely for their screen sizes. With trifold bridging the gap between screen sizes and, more importantly, screen rati…

I have a hard time justifying buying a trifold when my 13-inch iPad Pro was 1263€ and the Samsung trifold is probably gonna be closer to 3000€ for a 10-inch display. If I assume that it'll be 2999€, you can get a 13-inch iPad Pro (1519€), a Magic Keyboard for the iPad (399€), an iPhone 17 (999€) and still have money left over. And this is straight from Apple.com. It's possible to get better deals elsewhere.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by swiftcoder »

dylan604 wrote: post #35
Almondsetat wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can only go as far if Apple doesn't deprecate them, unfortunately

Depends on how you look at it. While the hardware might keep functioning and current software might keep running, some devs also deprecate their software. I have an old 6S+ that I keep software that I don't want to install on my actual device. Slack informed me that it will no longer function after a date set later this year. Other apps have already stopped working on it because the devs do not want to deal with it.…

> TL;DR sometimes it's not Apple, it's the app devs that deprecate them.

Are the app devs deprecating just because their support matrix is too big, or because current SDKs will no longer build apps compatible with those devices?

I think the later case is less common on the Android side of the fence, but Apple is not great about keeping old versions of the dev tools functional, and you end up needing to keep elderly Macs around to target older versions of the OS.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by criddell »

chorkpop wrote: post #9

I wish Apple hadn't decided that colors weren't for pro users. I would love to have any of those.

I'm still upset that they dropped the Smart Keyboard Folio. For me, that was the perfect keyboard case. I was hoping some third party would copy the design and release a new case but it never happened.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by wlesieutre »

vintagedave wrote: post #4

My current iPad is the iPad Air 3 (the one with the backlight issue that's never been acknowledged, to my understanding.) Can someone explain to me why an iPad at all, let alone an iPad Air, needs as powerful a processor as a M4? That's stronger than my laptop (a M2) where I run multiple VMs and more.

I have an iPad Pro (2018) with A12X processor which at one point was a "holy crap this this is incredibly fast for how thin it is" device.

8 years later the local apps still run fast, but it struggles with web browsing.

Which is to say, you need a fast processor or web developers will out-bloat your device capabilities in a few years.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by vlovich123 »

saltwounds wrote: post #51
kkylin wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had an even older iPad I was happily using for similar use cases. Until one day a family member bricked it and I needed to factory reset. No big deal, I thought -- nothing important on it. Turns out it needed to phone home to do the factory reset, and since the server it wanted to talk to was no longer up (or perhaps the address changed?) I couldn't factory reset the iPad. If someone has a work-around I'd love to h…

You should be able to DFU, but when it phones home it'll require a software upgrade

Apple recently had an issue with expired certs they had to remedy. That tends to be their bottleneck now.

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by crims0n »

manmal wrote: post #29

Tangential, iPadOS 26 is absolutely unusable on iPad Minis. Who needs window management on an 8" screen?

-you can turn it off globally in settings

-some people use it docked

-if it wasn't available, someone else would be complaining about that

Re: New iPad Air, powered by M4

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Post by bookofjoe »

Noaidi wrote: post #41
vintagedave wrote: post #4

My current iPad is the iPad Air 3 (the one with the backlight issue that's never been acknowledged, to my understanding.) Can someone explain to me why an iPad at all, let alone an iPad Air, needs as powerful a processor as a M4? That's stronger than my laptop (a M2) where I run multiple VMs and more.

> Can someone explain to me why an iPad at all, let alone an iPad Air, needs as powerful a processor as a M4? Because marketing? Seriously, the people I see using iPads in coffee shops are rich retired dudes looking at the news on it.

Because fanbois don't want to wait another year for M5?
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