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Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by csours »

this pairs nicely with the finding of the supreme court:

    Under our constitutional structure of separated powers, the nature of Presidential power entitles a former President to absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions within his conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority. And he is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity for unofficial acts.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by _zachs »

MarcelOlsz wrote: post #26
phkahler wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds exactly like China to me.

Yeah except in their society some cool shit happens at least.

Yeah I'm sure the Uyghurs there can tell you all about the cool shit going down for them!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by tencentshill »

brightball wrote: post #38
emsign wrote: post #3

So the Pentagon is strongarming a company into cooperation? That reminds of how my alcoholic neighbor used to treat his family. It's almost as if someone let a mean drunk be in charge of the Pentagon.

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COVID and election discourse was (and is) massively influenced by foreign actors, and social media companies were disinclined to take action on that front, as it was good engagement. Thus the government was motivated to do something about it. This leads us to now, where we're looking at ID/citizenship requirements for much of what people consider "the internet".

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by bdangubic »

bink wrote: post #8

Imagine a world where in order to do business in the US you must grant the government control of your company. This sounds worse than even the most alarmist China takes.

This is exactly America’s path. All this time we were “fighting” regimes like Chinese and Russian and now it is like “can’t beat them, join them” banana republic

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by buellerbueller »

colek42 wrote: post #12
vonneumannstan wrote: post #2

Point blank one of the most nakedly evil things the government has ever tried to do. Apparently Anthropic's sticking points were no using the model for autonomous kill orders and no mass surveillance...

The voters and congress tell the military how to use technology, not Anthropic. Shifting the decision to Anthropic takes away power from the citizenship. Edit: The point is, go vote if you don't agree with what the administration is doing. Somebody will sell the DoD whatever they want no matter what Anthropic does.

The government is bound by its contracts. The government is not Darth Vader: "I am altering the deal; pray I don't alter it any further."

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by xiphias2 »

,,Needless to say, I support Anthropic here. I’m a sensible moderate on the killbot issue (we’ll probably get them eventually, and I doubt they’ll make things much worse compared to AI “only” having unfettered access to every Internet-enabled computer in the world). But AI-enabled mass surveillance of US citizens seems like the sort of thing we should at least have a chance to think over, rather than demanding it from the get-go.''

Why would killbots be sensible moderate with the number of hallucinations LLMs have right now?

They just need to have one rm -rf bug somewhere to so something disasterous, and at least Antrhopic's CEO understands the limitations of the software.

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by buellerbueller »

fogzen wrote: post #46

I can't help but compare what happened with nuclear physics to what will happen with ASI/AGI. We could have used nuclear energy to provide abundant, clean energy. Instead we used it for warfare to kill people. All the of the brightest minds and frontier technology was directed towards killing people. We could use AI for medical advances and to create a communist utopia without serfdom. But it's already looking like w…

Look who is in power (both of the US Govt and of Big Tech). Complete sociopaths.

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by spidersenses »

unyttigfjelltol wrote: post #21

Techno futurist: 1. Builds tool extremely capable of mass surveillance and running autonomous warfighting capabilities. 2. Expresses shock — shock — when the Department of War insists on using the tool for mass surveillance and autonomous warfighting systems.

Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by buellerbueller »

IG_Semmelweiss wrote: post #40
bigyabai wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't grok this comment. Are you pro or anti-cartel?

very much anti cartel Any company using a huge $$ war chest to shower themselves in regulation, is likely trying to usurp market powers from the public -via congressional bribes- to themselves.

You have described here all of Silicon Valley, VC and Y Combinator lol.

Re: The Pentagon threatens Anthropic

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Post by ljm »

emsign wrote: post #3

So the Pentagon is strongarming a company into cooperation? That reminds of how my alcoholic neighbor used to treat his family. It's almost as if someone let a mean drunk be in charge of the Pentagon.

I wouldn't start up a new company in the US knowing that they are going full tyrant like this.
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