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Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This article has nothing to do with the current tête-à-tête with the Pentagon. The article yes, but we cannot be sure about its topic. We definitely cannot claim that they are unrelated. We don't know. It's possible that the two things have nothing to do with each other. It's also possible that they wanted to prevent worse requests and this was a preventive measure.

This is something they've been working on "in recent months". The Pentagon thing was today . This cannot have been caused by that, unless they've also invented time travel.

Pentagon issue was reported before today. It only made headlines again from Hegseth’s comments.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#53
At some point, all of these big names in AI (OpenAI, Anthropic, Mistral, etc ...) will have to disclose their actual financials.

And it will be, as Warren Buffet puts it, a "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked." moment.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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post #49

Ah, the classic AI startup lifecycle: We must build a moat to save humanity from AI. Please regulate our open-source competitors for safety. Actually, safety doesn't scale well for our Q3 revenue targets.

Once they are a dominant market leader they will go back to asking the government to regulate based on policy suggestions from non-profits they also fund.

Is this sarcasm?

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once they are a dominant market leader they will go back to asking the government to regulate based on policy suggestions from non-profits they also fund.

Is this sarcasm?

I think it is cynicism; at least, there’s an idea that once a company is dominant it should want regulation, as it’ll stifle competition (since the competition has less capacity for regulatory hoop-jumping, or the competition will have had less time to do regulatory capture).

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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post #46

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Do you work at Anthropic, or know people who do? I genuinly curious why they are so holy to you, when to me I see just another tech company trying to make cash Edit: Reading some of the linked articles, I can see how Anthropic CEO is refusing to allow their product for warfare (killing humans), which is probably a good thing that resonates with supporting them

How is it a good thing to refuse to provide our warfighters with the tools that they need? I mean if we're going to have a military at all then we owe it to them to give them the best possible weapons systems that minimize friendly casualties. And let's not have any specious claims that LLMs are somehow special or uniquely dangerous: the US military has deployed operational fully autonomous weapons systems since the…

Why are you asking this question? You know what the answer is, you've just arbitrarily decided that it's specious in an attempt to frame rebuttals as unreasonable.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you work at Anthropic, or know people who do? I genuinly curious why they are so holy to you, when to me I see just another tech company trying to make cash Edit: Reading some of the linked articles, I can see how Anthropic CEO is refusing to allow their product for warfare (killing humans), which is probably a good thing that resonates with supporting them

How is it a good thing to refuse to provide our warfighters with the tools that they need? I mean if we're going to have a military at all then we owe it to them to give them the best possible weapons systems that minimize friendly casualties. And let's not have any specious claims that LLMs are somehow special or uniquely dangerous: the US military has deployed operational fully autonomous weapons systems since the…

This is the US military we’re talking about so 95% of what they do is attacking people for oil. They don’t “need” more of anything, they’re funded to the tune of a trillion dollars a year, almost as much as every other military in the world combined. What holy mission do you think they’re going to carry out with the assistance of LLMs?

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you work at Anthropic, or know people who do? I genuinly curious why they are so holy to you, when to me I see just another tech company trying to make cash Edit: Reading some of the linked articles, I can see how Anthropic CEO is refusing to allow their product for warfare (killing humans), which is probably a good thing that resonates with supporting them

How is it a good thing to refuse to provide our warfighters with the tools that they need? I mean if we're going to have a military at all then we owe it to them to give them the best possible weapons systems that minimize friendly casualties. And let's not have any specious claims that LLMs are somehow special or uniquely dangerous: the US military has deployed operational fully autonomous weapons systems since the…

"How is it a good thing to refuse to provide our warfighters with the tools that they need?"

Perhaps you should consider that this is a loaded question. I don't think HN needs this sort of Argumentum ad Passiones.

Re: Anthropic drops flagship safety pledge

#59
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This article has nothing to do with the current tête-à-tête with the Pentagon. The article yes, but we cannot be sure about its topic. We definitely cannot claim that they are unrelated. We don't know. It's possible that the two things have nothing to do with each other. It's also possible that they wanted to prevent worse requests and this was a preventive measure.

This is something they've been working on "in recent months". The Pentagon thing was today . This cannot have been caused by that, unless they've also invented time travel.

It might have been contingency planning: you don't need a weatherman...
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