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Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

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Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#51

This article was clearly written by an LLM. The author has two other submissions, one of which is entitled "Programmatic SEO: Generating 100k+ Pages That Rank". I'm at the point now where I find it incredibly rude when someone expects me to read LLM output without clearly identifying it as such.

How do you tell? I am genuinely curious. I myself find it incredibly rude that people will accuse you of "slop" the moment you basically write anything.

Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#52
Has anyone ever tried to have a SMTP server to receive e-mails and have an integration with third-party services to send e-mails (aws ses, sendgrid, ...) ?

In my experience receiving e-mails is easy, you just need to deal with some spam. But reliable e-mail delivery can be tricky, especially if you don't send a lot of e-mails regularly.

Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#53

Hosting email yourself is fine. Once you figure out the right incantations and order of animal sacrifice, it will stay fine. Mine has been online for 15 years, and I have no issues. I don't even get much spam because it's a weird domain. No routing issues to anyone. It's been my one and only email service for many years. However, I must strongly caution everyone: do NOT give an account to someone you aren't already m…

You can deprecate their email address. Ask them to use a new email address with the proviso that you will forward all email from the existing address to the new one.

Than after having not received an email after some period (a year or two) you can disable it. Worse case you can turn it back on temporarily for some critical issue.

Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#54
post #51

This article was clearly written by an LLM. The author has two other submissions, one of which is entitled "Programmatic SEO: Generating 100k+ Pages That Rank". I'm at the point now where I find it incredibly rude when someone expects me to read LLM output without clearly identifying it as such.

How do you tell? I am genuinely curious. I myself find it incredibly rude that people will accuse you of "slop" the moment you basically write anything.

He doesn't, and yes it's rude and mindless. There is no way to tell in the general case.

Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#55

I self-hosted for well over 20 years, I did not throw the towel and I do not plan to. Self-hosting is a sign of pride. Neither my government nor my Prime Minister nor even my Ministry of Interior or Foreign Ministry can host their own email. Last time I checked, only State Security self-hosted. I was probably lucky, but I rarely had delivery problems. The last one was a couple years ago with Microsoft swallowing my e…

> I must admit that when I send a really important email, I check the mail server log if it went off without errors, but this does not bother me as checking logs manually once in a while is a good thing anyway.

I also self-host my email. It would be very nice if there was some sort of notification system that alerted you if your email got bounced by the receiving server. A notification that fed through into Thunderbird would be marvelous.

Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#57
> Professional transactional email services exist because this problem is genuinely hard. [...] They handle the weird edge cases like a major provider deciding your IP went too quiet.

Except the whole point of the article is that they don't handle that. You had to fix it yourself.

Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#58
post #10

This attitude is so self-defeating. If no one hosts their own email anymore, no one will be able to host their own email anymore in the future. Having said that, I host some of my mail with Hetzner, and even at their scale they sometimes have deliverability issues.

Not when the attitude comes from being defeated by reality. Email is a terrible protocol for highly important communication between 2 consenting parties. Might as well talk over walkie-talkies shared with the entire world, including everyone in the insane asylums.

Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#59
post #9
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a business, another option is to have your own server but pay someone to manage it rather than just entirely outsource it.

yes ... i thought this is included in the expression "as a service" :) it doesn't matter how you slice & dice it, the "service" is to have someone - be it business or be it a person - who is responsible for running this service ... you get an SLA and according to the conditions you are able to work with the entity which provides the service ...

If the person you pay is an employee you do not get the external guarantee, nor would you if you pay someone to maintain a server that is yours.

The big email providers do not really provide a worthwhile SLA to most customers AFAIK. Do they cover the cost of business interruption if your business is heavily dependent on email, for example?

Re: Don't host email yourself – your reminder in 2026

#60
The correct title is "Don't host your own transactional business email, use a transactional email provider."

Hosting your own personal mail isn't for everyone but it's not impossible. It is, however, something you'll need to maintain so be ready to pick up a new hobby.

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