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Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by joe_mamba » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 10:53 AM UTC

echelon wrote: post #49

sz4kerto wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So prices will need to increase -- if it makes a senior engineer 10x more productive then coding assistants could easily cost 20x-100x more then what they cost today. Same for video generation.

Given that 10x engineers cost in the millions and that movies cost in the hundreds of millions - this is okay! Edit: HN rate limit won't let me reply, so here - I'm saying that hiring ten senior engineer costs millions. (Not a single 10xer - that's such a debated thing anyway, Fabrice Bellard or not.) AI companies will make bank when they've hooked us all on the tools and raise prices. Companies would likely rather p…

How many 10x engineers paid millions are out there? How can you stay in business as an AI company by only charging those 10x engineers 200/month?

Edit: Fabrice Bellard is a 10x engineers because he invents cool and innovative tools that didn't exist, not because he can bang out code 10x faster. AI can't replace fabrice Ballard.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by anonzzzies » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 10:53 AM UTC

I have been buying older servers by the truckloads. Older being a year or so. It will be enough to host whatever outside AI that we need for the coming 15-20 years. And the all were great deals, will have them paid for within a month per server. I have my own cage full with empty racks bought from a bankrupt company in AMS.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by re-thc » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 10:56 AM UTC

Haven880 wrote: post #44

alt227 wrote: post #10

I assume this is a symptom of the wider ai hardware issue. This is starting to feel a bit like universal paperclips to me, and we are on the verge of the next stage of industrialisation multiplication. I guess its either quantum computing or the hypnodrones which will get us out of this mess one way or another...

More like China-factor to get us out of the mess. We wait for Huawei photonics gpus (end of this year), CXMT and YMTC ramping up production to flood the market or as Janet coined it overcapacity. You know China will undercut the price significantly.

China doesn't have enough to supply itself.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by ndr42 » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 10:56 AM UTC

echelon wrote: post #20

joe_mamba wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI bubble won't last forever when a lot of compute is burned at a loss just so people can generate AI videos of sharks driving cars for social media shorts. It will burst at some point, at which HW manufacturing will have to lower prices if they still want to have enough sales to stay in business, since most of their current sales boom comes from HW they haven't even made yet. OpenAI can't keep losing investor money…

I really don't think so. I feel like we're at a takeoff. Senior engineers using AI coding are 10x more productive. My output has jumped dramatically. I'm a senior engineer and built six nines, active-active systems that moved billions of dollars a day. I am absolutely a beast with these models. I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing…

If you are able now to create 10 products instead of 1 in the same time frame you will have to plan, review and maintain 10 things instead of 1. How can this work? I mean to double your productivity is a huge jump but 10x sounds unsustainable.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by monster_truck » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 10:58 AM UTC

re-thc wrote: post #53

Haven880 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like China-factor to get us out of the mess. We wait for Huawei photonics gpus (end of this year), CXMT and YMTC ramping up production to flood the market or as Janet coined it overcapacity. You know China will undercut the price significantly.

China doesn't have enough to supply itself.

Neither does anyone else. Key difference being they planned for this 5 years ago instead of last quarter

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by oohbkkb » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 10:58 AM UTC

re-thc wrote: post #46

echelon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't think so. I feel like we're at a takeoff. Senior engineers using AI coding are 10x more productive. My output has jumped dramatically. I'm a senior engineer and built six nines, active-active systems that moved billions of dollars a day. I am absolutely a beast with these models. I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing…

> I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing the code and planning the architecture - I am not dialing this in. So you can review so much code so fast? Are you sure? In many companies code reviews (properly) are the bottleneck. This was the case without AI. Now you're saying AI is giving you 10x more code reviews and you're even faster.…

10x AI speed up only happens when you stop reading the code (or start skimming it, etc). This is pretty obvious to anyone that uses the tools and many vibe coding proponents have said as much.

Sacrificing quality for quantity makes these tools much less impressive. I say this as I tab over to my bug ridden memory hog CC tmux tab.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by mrweasel » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 10:58 AM UTC

iamtheworstdev wrote: post #23

echelon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't think so. I feel like we're at a takeoff. Senior engineers using AI coding are 10x more productive. My output has jumped dramatically. I'm a senior engineer and built six nines, active-active systems that moved billions of dollars a day. I am absolutely a beast with these models. I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing…

Yea but are you paying a profitable amount of money to your service provider for you to do it? I find it hard to believe that Anthropic is profiting off of my $100/mo subscription based on how active I keep my machines running.

The numbers mentioned by Ed Zitron in his podcast Better Offline recently suggested that a $200/mo Claude subscription allows you to spend $2300 - $2700 worth of Anthropic tokens. That's pretty bad, but better than I expected.

I don't see it being unreasonable that models and infrastructure could improve enough to bridge the cost gap within five to ten years. It's just that the AI companies already spend so much money that it might not matter.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by hypeatei » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 11:01 AM UTC

ndr42 wrote: post #54

echelon wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't think so. I feel like we're at a takeoff. Senior engineers using AI coding are 10x more productive. My output has jumped dramatically. I'm a senior engineer and built six nines, active-active systems that moved billions of dollars a day. I am absolutely a beast with these models. I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing…

If you are able now to create 10 products instead of 1 in the same time frame you will have to plan, review and maintain 10 things instead of 1. How can this work? I mean to double your productivity is a huge jump but 10x sounds unsustainable.

Well, AI fanatics aren't about longevity or maintaining things. The fact that the LLM spit out a bunch of code is good enough for them. Drive-by PRs and vaporware are their bread & butter.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by silver_silver » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 11:02 AM UTC

echelon wrote: post #20

joe_mamba wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI bubble won't last forever when a lot of compute is burned at a loss just so people can generate AI videos of sharks driving cars for social media shorts. It will burst at some point, at which HW manufacturing will have to lower prices if they still want to have enough sales to stay in business, since most of their current sales boom comes from HW they haven't even made yet. OpenAI can't keep losing investor money…

I really don't think so. I feel like we're at a takeoff. Senior engineers using AI coding are 10x more productive. My output has jumped dramatically. I'm a senior engineer and built six nines, active-active systems that moved billions of dollars a day. I am absolutely a beast with these models. I can replace an entire team just by myself. I'm literally shipping an entire week of features in half a day. I'm reviewing…

The video models aren’t that good yet but for coding the utility is clear, yes. To be fair Darren Aronofsky also overestimates their quality.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but generating video is also much more resource intensive than equivalently productive text-only model use. It seems the industry could save itself a lot of hassle and infamy by simply avoiding artistic fields.

Re: Hetzner Prices increase 30-40%

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Post by arisAlexis » Mon, Feb 23, 2026, 11:06 AM UTC

joe_mamba wrote: post #12

alt227 wrote: post #10

I assume this is a symptom of the wider ai hardware issue. This is starting to feel a bit like universal paperclips to me, and we are on the verge of the next stage of industrialisation multiplication. I guess its either quantum computing or the hypnodrones which will get us out of this mess one way or another...

AI bubble won't last forever when a lot of compute is burned at a loss just so people can generate AI videos of sharks driving cars for social media shorts. It will burst at some point, at which HW manufacturing will have to lower prices if they still want to have enough sales to stay in business, since most of their current sales boom comes from HW they haven't even made yet. OpenAI can't keep losing investor money…

Nothing has ever burst when production can't meet demand