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The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by shibapuppie »

pjmlp wrote: post #31
dangus wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was in the era of $10 shows. If I am paying $700 to see Lady Gaga you bet your ass I’m taking some pictures. I actually find k-pop shows somewhat refreshing because there’s zero negative stigma for wanting to record pictures or video. I can easily tell that Gen Z/Alpha has no problem enjoying themselves and even dancing while recording a video. If a phone is blocking your view the venue is designed wrong, or you…

For what, to say "I was there"?

Why take pictures at all? Why did our grandparents bother to photograph anything at all, ever!

WE ALL KNOW THEY WERE THERE!

That's how you sound.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by deaux »

OneMorePerson wrote: post #27
retired wrote: post #18

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Perhaps it can be enforced with a type of laser that doesn’t damage the human eye but completely obliterates a phone camera. As long as you keep the sticker on nothing happens to your phone.

I've seen this in Asia, there's an employee who basically is standing at a raised spot in the corner and if you take out your phone they shoot a small laser pointer right into the camera, it messes with the video. They can't get it on there all the time but a video where half of it (or more they are surprisingly accurate) is a strobing laser becomes pretty garbage anyways. While they are doing that another employee/b…

> I've seen this in Asia

"I've seen this on planet earth"

Afghanistan? China? Tonga?

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

blinding-streak wrote: post #39

Bloomberg is an interesting news outlet. My whole life I thought of them as purely financial-based reporting. But I've seen lots of lifestyle stuff from them too. And usually well written and interesting angles. Maybe journalism isn't totally dead yet.

Bloomberg News is at least 2 organizations (and maybe 3+ now).

The original Bloomberg News was purely financial. They then bought Businessweek and published Bloomberg Businessweek but also leveraged the acquisition to build out their general news under the Bloomberg News banner. They’ve had other acquisitions as well to expand their scope. The one I’m particularly interested in is Citylab which means they have probably some of the best urbanism and housing policy related news coverage.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

DaedalusII wrote: post #48
blinding-streak wrote: post #39

Bloomberg is an interesting news outlet. My whole life I thought of them as purely financial-based reporting. But I've seen lots of lifestyle stuff from them too. And usually well written and interesting angles. Maybe journalism isn't totally dead yet.

they have to start pivoting as their core business model of charging a human being ~$30k USD to access a data terminal is dead with AI. now instead of having 10 human agents using 10 human terminals that costs $300k you can have 100 AI agents orchestrated into a single terminal that costs $30k its especially dead because people can begin to develop macros and tools to create alternatives to their system using raw dat…

That may be true but it has nothing to do with their news media grow out which has been happening for decades.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

mellosouls wrote: post #42
LeanderK wrote: post #34

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you know that people really go there to dance and enjoy the music? A friend of mine is a professional (modern) dancer, so has as much credentials as you can, and she enjoys dancing in berlins nightlife. She finds the space for expression and creativity in her movement, in tune with the music. Of course, the is not much physical space, which is how the dance-movements evolved as they have (e.g you never spin and you f…

Thanks - yes I'm aware of most of those (my handle here is a northern soul record) and do attend but they are relatively niche and I resent the current way mainstream dance music events are presented to the world as something that seems counter to the notion. Btw I've seen great dancers who barely move their feet; my concern is with the culture where individual expression is subordinated to the cult of commune and th…

Maybe different people like different things?

Dance isn’t just an art form. It’s also about the commune. It’s also about letting yourself go and sometimes with a DJ or artist to guide the experience.

Sounds like concerts are not a good space for the enjoyment you get out of dance. But it’s a great space for the dance experience many others want.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by pjmlp »

shibapuppie wrote: post #51
pjmlp wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what, to say "I was there"?

Why take pictures at all? Why did our grandparents bother to photograph anything at all, ever! WE ALL KNOW THEY WERE THERE! That's how you sound.

Except they didn't photograph every little second of their lives, they enjoyed the moment.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by krisoft »

collinmcnulty wrote: post #44
krisoft wrote: post #35

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> a type of laser that doesn’t damage the human eye but completely obliterates a phone camera If we are asking for impossible things why make it so scifi coded? I would much prefer cute bunny unicorns who suddenly grow fangs and bite people who are taking pictures. They are both equaly realistic but the bunny unicorns are nicer to think of.

Certain kinds of lidar do damage phone cameras https://www.jalopnik.com/1866994/lidar-permanently-damage-ph...

Of course. There is no doubt that you can shoot cameras out. That's not the problem. The problem is if you try to scale that effect up to the size of a club what you have won't be eye safe. There is not enough margin between "safe for human eyes" and "destroys cameras" to construct a practical system. Especially not to the safety requirements of an entertainment venue.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by hahn-kev »

bpavuk wrote: post #38

I remember being on a concert relatively recently, a few years ago. nearly everyone had their phones up, mine was in a pocket. no one made a single movement that resembled dance, everyone just... stood still. that differed by a great measure from several concerts I attended circa 2018-19. on both music fests, I was in flow. I've been dancing - it's a usual thing all humans naturally do when they hear rhythm that reso…

I don't think they were scrolling. They were recording, which I think is a very very different thing from doom scrolling addiction.

But man that sucks, there should be a phone free zone in the concert.

Re: The dance floor is disappearing in a sea of phones

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Post by drawfloat »

DaedalusII wrote: post #48
blinding-streak wrote: post #39

Bloomberg is an interesting news outlet. My whole life I thought of them as purely financial-based reporting. But I've seen lots of lifestyle stuff from them too. And usually well written and interesting angles. Maybe journalism isn't totally dead yet.

they have to start pivoting as their core business model of charging a human being ~$30k USD to access a data terminal is dead with AI. now instead of having 10 human agents using 10 human terminals that costs $300k you can have 100 AI agents orchestrated into a single terminal that costs $30k its especially dead because people can begin to develop macros and tools to create alternatives to their system using raw dat…

AI agents trawling the web: famously incredibly low latency, sourcing news before it hits social media, and accurate enough to be able to stake multi million dollar trades on.
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