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FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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Re: FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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Nothing mandatory, so no worries

With respect... the FCC is a regulatory agency. There is an obvious set of forcing functions here. It's not normal and is very concerning.

The primary function of the FCC is in engineering compliance: HAAT, power, frequency, contour, allocation etc. Their other functions are secondary. Our broadcast regulatory infastruction is more like Canada, not North Korea. We only regulate content very nominally. A change in this philosophy is chilling.

Re: FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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Does the pledge of allegiance actually do anything? I can't even remember if I did it in school. I first thought "oh, my State must not have done the pledge in school", but after more reflection I think I did but just doing remember.

Wow, that doesn't terrify you? We're talking about a thing that, if you did it, you would have done at least ~2000 times in a typical 12 years of school. Every morning. Do you remember other school events?

Re: FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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Does the pledge of allegiance actually do anything? I can't even remember if I did it in school. I first thought "oh, my State must not have done the pledge in school", but after more reflection I think I did but just doing remember.

Wow, that doesn't terrify you? We're talking about a thing that, if you did it, you would have done at least ~2000 times in a typical 12 years of school. Every morning. Do you remember other school events?

Routine stuff actually just fades very easily.

Re: FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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>Although it’s described as voluntary, Carr said broadcasters can meet their public interest obligations by taking the pledge. This is notable because Carr has repeatedly threatened to punish broadcast stations for violating the public interest standard. But apparently Europe are the ones with freedom of speech issues.

You are limited to a realitwhere words have consistent meaning. the fascists and republicans have no such limitation, which gives them a lot of power if you think you can debate them with logic.

I can't tell if this is intentional or not, but you're pretty much paraphrasing a famous Jean-Paul Sartre's WW2-era quote:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7870768-never-believe-that-...

Re: FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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it just wouldnt? what are you trying to say

What purpose is this submission supposed to serve? What kind of discussion around it do you think would be more appropriate?

I think it’s incredibly important to have active and engaging conversations about the FCC on HN, regardless of political ideology, because of our shared identity as those deeply involved with tech.

We should be openly discussing whether freedom of speech and information is being infringed by governments around the world in ways which can and do infringe upon our world.

Re: FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, that doesn't terrify you? We're talking about a thing that, if you did it, you would have done at least ~2000 times in a typical 12 years of school. Every morning. Do you remember other school events?

Routine stuff actually just fades very easily.

Sure sure -- I can't tell you what I ate for dinner on an arbitrary Tuesday or something but a routine thing from 12 years? Knowing whether or not you did that routine at least? Seems like something you should probably remember? I donno I'm only 36 maybe it just gets lots harder from here.

Re: FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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What purpose is this submission supposed to serve? What kind of discussion around it do you think would be more appropriate?

I think it’s incredibly important to have active and engaging conversations about the FCC on HN, regardless of political ideology, because of our shared identity as those deeply involved with tech. We should be openly discussing whether freedom of speech and information is being infringed by governments around the world in ways which can and do infringe upon our world.

So how might a campaign such as this be advanced or advertised in ways that don’t infringe upon Democratic values?

Re: FCC asks stations for "pro-America" programming, like daily Pledge of Allegiance

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Every day at noon one of the radio stations in my city plays either the national anthem or America the Beautiful. I'm sure all 20 people still listening to FM radio hear it. I don't see a problem with it.

I don’t see a problem with a broadcast channel deciding what it is they want to air on their station.

I do, however, have a serious problem with the government /potentially/ forcing nationalistic and god-fearing content (e.g., the altered Pledge) on the country’s inhabitants who choose to listen to broadcast networks. These are supposedly voluntary; and, if so, cool. But; if they later use it against a network, then it’s a big issue.

Freedom of speech and expression is an inherent right of the US under its Constitution; government-forced nationalism and religious ideology is not in the public interest, regardless of which political party is in power.

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