How long web search had been objective, nice, and helpful - 10 years? Now things are happening faster so there is max 5 years in total of AI prompt pretending that they want to help.
Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later? Typically not how these things work. Speech is processed using ASR (automatic speech recognition), and then ran through a prompt that checks for appropriate tools calls. I've been meaning to basically make this myself but I've been too lazy lately to bother. I actually want a lot…
> Imagine an AI reminding you that you've been on HN too long and offering to save off the comment your working on for later and then moving they browser window to a different tab. > Having idle thoughts in the car of things you need to do and being able to just say them out loud and know important topics won't be forgotten about. > I understand for people who aren't neurodiverse that the idea of just forgetting to d…
> > Imagine an AI reminding you that you've been on HN too long and offering to save off the comment your working on for later and then moving they browser window to a different tab.
This would be its death sentence. Nuked from orbit:
sudo rm -rfv /
Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company
#53This spiel is hilarious in the context of the product this company ( https://juno-labs.com/ ) is pushing – an always on, always listening AI device that inserts itself into your and your family’s private lives. “Oh but they only run on local hardware…” Okay, but that doesn't mean every aspect of our lives needs to be recorded and analyzed by an AI. Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (inc…
The fundamental problem with a lot of this is that the legal system is absolute: if information exists, it is accessible. If the courts order it, nothing you can do can prevent the information being handed over, even if that means a raid of your physical premises. Unless you encrypt it in a manner resistant to any way you can be compelled to decrypt it, the only way to have privacy is for information not to exist in…
> Unless you encrypt it in a manner resistant to any way you can be compelled to decrypt it,
In the US you it is not legal to be compelled to turn over a password. It's a violation of your fifth amendment rights. In the UK you can be jailed until you turn over the password.
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#54I mean why is it so difficult for such companies to understand the core thing: irrespective of whether the data related to our daily lives gets processed on their servers or ours, we DON'T want it stored beyond a few minutes at max.
Even if these folks are giving away this device for 100% free, I'll still not keep it inside my house.
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#55I mean why is it so difficult for such companies to understand the core thing: irrespective of whether the data related to our daily lives gets processed on their servers or ours, we DON'T want it stored beyond a few minutes at max. Even if these folks are giving away this device for 100% free, I'll still not keep it inside my house.
Because storing, analyzing, and selling access to your data is massively profitable and they don’t care what the (not even vocal) privacy focused minority wants.
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#56We need an ai adblocker !!
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#57This spiel is hilarious in the context of the product this company ( https://juno-labs.com/ ) is pushing – an always on, always listening AI device that inserts itself into your and your family’s private lives. “Oh but they only run on local hardware…” Okay, but that doesn't mean every aspect of our lives needs to be recorded and analyzed by an AI. Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (inc…
> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later?
Is this somehow fundamentally different from having memories?
Because I thought about it, and decided that personally I do - with one important condition, though. I do because my memories are not as great as I would like them to be, and they decline with stress and age. If a machine can supplement that in the same way my glasses supplement my vision, or my friend's hearing aid supplements his hearing - that'd be nice. That's why we have technology in the first place, to improve our lives, right?
But, as I said, there is an important condition. Today, what's in my head stays in there, and is only directly available to me. The machine-assisted memory aid must provide the same guarantees. If any information leaves the device without my direct instruction - that's a hard "no". If someone with physical access to the device can extract the information without a lot of effort - that's also a hard "no". If someone can too easily impersonate myself to the device and improperly gain access - that's another "no". Maybe there are a few more criteria, but I hope you got the overall idea.
If a product passes those criteria, then it - by design - cannot violate others' privacy - no more than I can do myself. And then - yeah - I want it, wish there'd be something like that.
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#58I really dislike the preorder page. The fact that it's a deposit is in a different color that fades into the background, and it refers to it as a "price" multiple times. I don't know if it was intentionally deceptive, but it made me dislike this company.
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#59Just when you've asked if there are eggs the doorbell rings, the neighbor stands there in disbelief, it told me to bring you eggs? Give him the half bottle vodka, it's going to expire soon and his son will make a surprise visit tonight. An argument arises and it participates by encouraging both parties with extra talking points.
But this was only the beginning, after gathering a few TB worth of micro expressions it starts to complete sentences so successfully the conversation gradually dies out.
After a few days of silence... Narrator mode activated....
Re: Every company building your AI assistant is now an ad company
#60This spiel is hilarious in the context of the product this company ( https://juno-labs.com/ ) is pushing – an always on, always listening AI device that inserts itself into your and your family’s private lives. “Oh but they only run on local hardware…” Okay, but that doesn't mean every aspect of our lives needs to be recorded and analyzed by an AI. Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (inc…
> Are you okay with private and intimate conversations and moments (including of underage family members) being saved for replaying later?
Maybe I missed it but I didn't see anything there that said it saved conversations. It sounds like it processes them as they happen and then takes actions that it thinks will help you achieve whatever goals of your it can infer from the conversation.