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Paged Out Issue #8 [pdf]

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There's also Proof Of Concept Or GTFO edited by Pastor Manuel LaPhroaig https://github.com/angea/pocorgtfo

Boy, PoC||GTFO is my favorite "magazine". No, not giving spoilers except there might be some polyglot files.

I can highly recommend buying these printed in the "bible style" binding with finger cutouts, ribbon bookmark and everything.

https://nostarch.com/gtfo3

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2600 is still being published! https://www.2600.com/Magazine/DigitalEditions

Has the quality declined over the years? I get the 2600 zine at a local book store and I like it but there's a lot of articles that I don't really care about. It might be a good thing though.

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2600 is still being published! https://www.2600.com/Magazine/DigitalEditions

Has the quality declined over the years? I get the 2600 zine at a local book store and I like it but there's a lot of articles that I don't really care about. It might be a good thing though.

2600 is locked into a format that was relevant 30-40 years ago and is nearly irrelevant today. In my opinion, 2600 is pantomiming a hacker aesthetic and have long since abandoned any commitment to an underlying hacker ethos.

I'm surprised that they're now offering a digital format as, at one point, they were taking a hard stance to not provide one. I guess they changed their mind within the last 10 years or so.

Notice how Paged Out is libre/free licensed, making sure that they provide a CC0, CC-BY or CC-BY-SA for their articles. 2600 is locked under copyright.

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Awesome! Was looking forward to the next issue. Paged Out reminds me a lot of the old-school 2600 Hacker Quarterly periodical back in the 80s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2600:_The_Hacker_Quarterly

2600 is still being published! https://www.2600.com/Magazine/DigitalEditions

Oh my goodness, they're still doing the radio shows as well.

I was an avid follower of 2600, phrack, etc from the mid 90's up through the mid 2010s and it seemed to me that the 2600 community always sort of stuck to itself, never really growing or shrinking.

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A couple of the stories where I feel I have expertise I found to be a bit objectionable. The title/headline was some clever or unexpected thing, but upon reading it turns out there is nothing supporting the headline. E.g. "Integer Comparison is not Deterministic", in the C standard you can't do math on pointers from different allocations. The result in the article is obvious if you know that. Also, in the Logistic Ma…

You're right. In general when selecting articles we assume that the reader is an expert in some field(s), but not necessarily in the field covered by this article. As such, things which are simple for an expert in the specific domain, can still be surprisingly to learn for folks who aren't experts in that domain. What I'm saying is, that we don't try to be a cutting edge scientific journal — rather than that, we publ…

For what it's worth, I am only a mid-tier nerd and after reading this issue, I feel like I am your target audience. Nothing deep or overly-detailed, just lots of jumping-off points for me to learn more. Thanks!

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I took a peak at "Compiler Education Deserves a Revolution" and thought, wtf is this talking about? It claims clang is NOT "a pipeline that runs each pass of the compiler over your entire code before shuffling its output along to the next pass." What I think the author is talking about is primarily AST parsing and clangd, where as "any compiler tome" is still highly relevant to the actual work of building a compiler.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/seth-juarez/anders-h... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11685317 https://lobste.rs/s/dwf2yn/sixten_s_query_based_compiler https://ericlippert.com/2012/06/08/red-green-trees/ Rust's salsa, etc. Related search terms are incremental compilation and red-green trees. It's primarily an ide driven workflow (well, the original use case was driven by ides), but the principles behin…

OK, but that is distinctly NOT what clang does... incremental compilation with clang is handled at the build system level. I can't speak for rustc, but I do know that it typically ends up going through llvm, which, contrary to the author's claims, is exactly a pipeline.

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https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/shows/seth-juarez/anders-h... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11685317 https://lobste.rs/s/dwf2yn/sixten_s_query_based_compiler https://ericlippert.com/2012/06/08/red-green-trees/ Rust's salsa, etc. Related search terms are incremental compilation and red-green trees. It's primarily an ide driven workflow (well, the original use case was driven by ides), but the principles behin…

OK, but that is distinctly NOT what clang does... incremental compilation with clang is handled at the build system level. I can't speak for rustc, but I do know that it typically ends up going through llvm, which, contrary to the author's claims, is exactly a pipeline.

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