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There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by hiccuphippo »

reducesuffering wrote: post #37
renjimen wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not per capita. The US is still the worst large country. If you account for offshoring manufacturing then the US looks even worse. https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-greenhouse-gas-emissions

Why should should per-capita be most important? If country A keeps their population stable and emissions under control, but country B of the same starting population, keeps doubling their population and doubling their emissions, why should country A have an increasingly declined allowance of emissions when they were more responsible in keeping their total emissions down (by not having as many people)?

Because some countries pay others to pollute in their stead?

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by rolph »

deadbabe wrote: post #17

I’ve given up. I’ve long assumed for a year now we are heading for warming that is even worse than the worst projections and it’s all over. This has given me some peace, like accepting you’re going to die.

you will age, you will weaken, you will cease, no choice or circumstance will change that. endeavor to create something that will persist through the eons, and that part of your mind will live forever.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by layer8 »

reducesuffering wrote: post #37
renjimen wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not per capita. The US is still the worst large country. If you account for offshoring manufacturing then the US looks even worse. https://ourworldindata.org/co2-and-greenhouse-gas-emissions

Why should should per-capita be most important? If country A keeps their population stable and emissions under control, but country B of the same starting population, keeps doubling their population and doubling their emissions, why should country A have an increasingly declined allowance of emissions when they were more responsible in keeping their total emissions down (by not having as many people)?

China has a declining population, and had a one-child policy for many years.

Also, you don’t want all the low-population countries to each start contributing as much to global warming as the US.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by legitster »

declan_roberts wrote: post #16

So what are we going to do about China?

The plan was always to put economic pressure on China to catch up to the rest of the developed world, but we can't exactly tell someone else to stop crapping their pants while we are still crapping our pants.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by girvo »

deadbabe wrote: post #17

I’ve given up. I’ve long assumed for a year now we are heading for warming that is even worse than the worst projections and it’s all over. This has given me some peace, like accepting you’re going to die.

Same, sadly. I’ve done far more than my part, and even my direct family hasn’t, let alone the rest of the country, the world.

I only hope I can have a decent life until it ends, and I hope it takes slightly longer than I think it will.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by reducesuffering »

generj wrote: post #25
declan_roberts wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a troll comment. China produces as much or more CO2 as much as the next 5 countries combined. It's logical to start with the king of greenhouse emissions if you want to stop global warming.

China is rapidly going green.

Is the US even more rapidly going green? https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co2?hideControls=false&...

China's emissions were 10 billion tons CO2 in 2017 and have increased every single year to 12.29 billion tons CO2 in 2024. Meanwhile, US decreased from 5.22 to 4.9 in the same time

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by jongjong »

chasil wrote: post #49

Reposting a previous comment... What is generally not understood is that our current icehouse phase is rare. 'A "greenhouse Earth" is a period during which no continental glaciers exist anywhere on the planet... Earth has been in a greenhouse state for about 85% of its history. 'Earth is now in an icehouse state, and ice sheets are present in both poles simultaneously... Earth's current icehouse state is known as the…

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Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by mikkupikku »

dyauspitr wrote: post #24
tencentshill wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or "Why does 2 degrees matter?" Because when were 4 degrees cooler, NYC was under 1000 feet of ice. We really don't want to find out what 4 degrees hotter is like.

Wait really? 1000 feet is insane.

It was actually about 2000 feet. The Laurentide ice sheet, it was 3 kilometers / ten thousand feet thick in some parts.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by gaigalas »

excalibur wrote: post #43
gaigalas wrote: post #36

Very exciting to live in an apocalyptical era. I'm looking forward to discover which one of the several global threats to humanity will put us down first.

I think the smart money is still on nuclear war, but the competition is getting fierce these days.

I think there's a strong argument for generalized systems collapse. It's a silent civilization killer, could be happening right now!

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Post by hannob »

declan_roberts wrote: post #16

So what are we going to do about China?

If the rest of the world wants to still have an industry once we finally decide to seriously use green technology, they should quickly catch up to China - if that's still possible.

While China is still very reliant on fossil-fuels, and particularly dirty coal, they're at the same time working on dominating the post-fossil age at astonishing speed. After they already dominate solar and batteries, they're working on doing the same for a number of other future green industries. They are already dominating future technologies like Green Methanol that most people in Europe or the US have never heard of.

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