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Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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> Unless there’s proof of incitement to violence or a true threat, such expression is protected. AFAIK the bar is even higher - incitement to violence is allowed, as long as it's not 'imminent': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imminent_lawless_action

The bar in the US right now seems to be if someone with any authority feels like killing you.

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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I mean obviously they never were. I think what really surprised people is that it turns out that despite it's supposed "libertarian" roots, the tech community has largely broken hard right authoritarian when the rubber hits the road. Kind of reinforcing the old adage that libertarians are just republicans who want to legally smoke weed.

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That was almost 7 years ago, the world was in a very different place back then.

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean obviously they never were. I think what really surprised people is that it turns out that despite it's supposed "libertarian" roots, the tech community has largely broken hard right authoritarian when the rubber hits the road. Kind of reinforcing the old adage that libertarians are just republicans who want to legally smoke weed.

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It's not 2019 any more.

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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What I find most interesting about this is that US tech companies are doing what people accuse China of doing. In fact, theoretical Chinese informed was the entire (performative) justification for the Tiktok ban. The reality of course was that TikTok wouldn’t censor what the US government wanted to censor. The irony is that these companies are sowing the seeds for their own destruction and the US government is underm…

At this point I think the biggest tangible difference between China and the US is that one country has high speed trains and affordable health care and the other has neither.

No one's murdering innocent citizens on the streets of China

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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I thought Republicans were for small government and were anti-censorship.

> I thought Republicans were for small government and were anti-censorship.

They are against very specific parts of big government and censorship

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I think the biggest tangible difference between China and the US is that one country has high speed trains and affordable health care and the other has neither.

No one's murdering innocent citizens on the streets of China

No the murders happen in camps eg. What's happening to the Uyghurs.

That said, they also use them as slave labors.

Maybe that's what ICE is going to do with the plan to setup large detention centers in the US

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At this point I think the biggest tangible difference between China and the US is that one country has high speed trains and affordable health care and the other has neither.

No one's murdering innocent citizens on the streets of China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

Re: Platforms bend over backward to help DHS censor ICE critics, advocates say

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All the tech ceos are on the trump train this time around, it was a specific strategy of the trump campaign. Using words like “caved” as though they were pressured and not already aligned with the government is a disservice.

They know what they are doing. To survive as a large entity during this administration you have to kiss the ring. If you don't, you'll get targeted for being 'woke' or whatever. In fact, kissing Trump's ass is more important for success than actually making a good product at this point. I definitely don't think what these CEOs are doing is moral, but it's certainly rational.

This is unacceptable behavior, and terrible that anyone would think this way. You're telling me that if Tim Cook wasn't getting on his knees every couple of weeks Apple would end? That's farcical.
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