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Re: YouTube as Storage

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Post by iberator »

e145bc455f1 wrote: post #43
compsciphd wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

par2 is very limited. It only support 32k parts in total (or in reality that means in practice 16k parts of source and 16k parts of parity). Lets take 100GB of data (relatively large, but within realm of reason of what someone might want to protect), that means each part will be ~6MB in size. But you're thinking you also created 100GB of parity data (6MB*16384 parity parts) so you're well protected. You're wrong. Now…

what other tool do you recommend?

just pay for storage instead. It's absurd that rich developers are doing ANYTHING but to pay for basic services - ruining the internet for those in real need.

we can't have nice things

Re: YouTube as Storage

#52

Post by anjel »

agnishom wrote: post #29
vasco wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? They sure worry about the commons when launching another datacenter to optimize ads.

You are right, but YouTube is also a massive repository of human cultural expression, whose true value is much more than the economic value it brings to Google.

So was Flickr

Re: YouTube as Storage

#53

Post by ilaksh »

Smalltalker-80 wrote: post #45

Thechnically cool, but ToS state: "Misuse of Service Restrictions - Purpose Restriction: The Service is intended for video viewing and sharing, not as a general-purpose, cloud-based file storage service." So they can rightfully delete your files.

Its interesting that this exact use case is already covered in their ToS. I wonder when the first YouTube as storage project came out, and how many there have been over the years.

Re: YouTube as Storage

#54

Post by RobotToaster »

cheonn638 wrote: post #31
vasco wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? They sure worry about the commons when launching another datacenter to optimize ads.

> That great commons that are the multi trillion dollar corporations that could buy multiple countries? Exactly which countries could they buy? Let me guess: you haven’t actually asked gemini

Nauru, possibly Tuvalu.

Re: YouTube as Storage

#55

Post by raincole »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #12
wasmainiac wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if that still holds true? The volume of videos increases exponentially especially with AI slop, I wonder if at some point they will have to limit the storage per user, with a paid model if you surpass that limit. Many people who upload many videos I guess some form of income off YouTube so it wouldn’t that be that big of a deal.

What they said only holds true because the growth continues so that the old volume of videos doesn't matter as much since there's so many more new ones each year compared to the previous year. So the question is more about whether or not it will hold true in the long term, not today

The framing here is really weird. The volume of videos increasing isn't 'growth.' Videos are inventory for Youtube. They're only good when people (without adblocks!) actually watch them.

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Post by encom »

wellf wrote: post #34
newqer wrote: post #14

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Just make sure you have you have a bot network storing the information in with multiple accounts. Also with with enough parity bits (E.g. PAR2) to recover broken vids or removed accounts.

Or.... backblaze B2

Have Backblaze software stopped being utterly awful, to the point of being almost nonfunctional, yet?

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Post by ancillary »

anjel wrote: post #52
agnishom wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are right, but YouTube is also a massive repository of human cultural expression, whose true value is much more than the economic value it brings to Google.

So was Flickr

Somebody wrote a file encoder to take advantage of Flickr's free photo storage, too (though based on its Github repo I don't think a ton of people used it): https://alexcbecker.net/projects.html#storing-data-in-gifs

Re: YouTube as Storage

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Post by amelius »

raincole wrote: post #55
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What they said only holds true because the growth continues so that the old volume of videos doesn't matter as much since there's so many more new ones each year compared to the previous year. So the question is more about whether or not it will hold true in the long term, not today

The framing here is really weird. The volume of videos increasing isn't 'growth.' Videos are inventory for Youtube. They're only good when people (without adblocks!) actually watch them.

^ This.
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