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Microwave Oven Failure: Spontaneously turned on by its LED display (2024)

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Re: Microwave Oven Failure: Spontaneously turned on by its LED display (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In almost every system with failsafes there will be conditions that can bypass them. The goal is not to make it impossible for the unsafe condition to happen, but to make it so that in the expected uses the failure will not happen. In this case it's a domestic microwave and the mainboard is housed inside the electronics enclosure, so covering the whole mainboard in salt water is not an expected occurrence in a domest…

But there are ~1 billion microwaves in the world... I'm sure it has happened somewhere. As a designer of a billion-sold device, your job is to make sure that the expected number of people harmed by your device is substantially less than one, which gets really hard when all the risks are multiplied by 1e9.

> As a designer of a billion-sold device, your job is to make sure that the expected number of people harmed by your device is substantially less than one

Source? People take risk in their day to day life and should expect to take risk. Why would they expect their microwave to be completely free of risk?

Re: Microwave Oven Failure: Spontaneously turned on by its LED display (2024)

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This is literally evidence of stuff being designed to fail. An extra diode costs less than a cent at production scale. This was a manufacturing choice, not an error.

I don't think it's so much an issue of designed to fail as trying to get it as cheap as possible.

Theres further issues with everything coming out of china and a brand slapped on it. No one is left to take responsibility on the engineering front. This feedback I doubt will get to the correct people at best buy, let alone going back to the microwave manufacturer. And then there's the question of if they care, as they aren't a customer facing brand.

Re: Microwave Oven Failure: Spontaneously turned on by its LED display (2024)

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My $$$ After cooking, I must turn the circuit breaker off (every single time) to avoid overheating an empty stove. Annoyingly, the system still detects that it is hot, because it is hot, while aware that it has technically been "OFF" for hours.

Can't my next new stove just have manual controls and last decades like the one it just replaced?!?

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