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The AI Vampire

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Re: The AI Vampire

#51
> But if you haven’t used specifically Opus 4.5/4.6 with specifically Claude Code for at least an hour, then you’re in for a real shock. Because all your complaining about AI not being useful for real-world tasks is obsolete.

These hyperbolic takes from Steve are wearing thin.

It wasn't my experience that Opus 4.5/4.6 was a sea change. It was a nice incremental improvement.

> And unfortunately, all your other tools and models are pretty terrible in comparison.

Personally, I like Copilot CLI. $10 a month for 300 requests. Copilot will keep working until it fulfills your request, no matter how many tokens it uses.

Calling all other tools "pretty terrible" without specifics reminds me of crypto FOMO from the 2010s.

Re: The AI Vampire

#52

All this praise for AI.. I honestly don't get it. I have used Opus 4.5 for work and private projects. My experience is that all of the AIs struggle when the project grows. They always find some kind of local minimum where they cannot get out of but tell you this time their solution will work.. but it doesn't. They waste my time with this behaviour enormously. In the end I always have to do it myself. Maybe when AIs a…

At what point does the project outgrow the AI in your experience? I have a 70k LOC backend/frontend/database/docker app that Claude still mostly one shots most features/tasks I throw at it. Perhaps, it's not as good remembering all the intertwined side-effects between functionalities/ui's and I have to let it know "in the calendar view, we must hide it as well", but that takes little time/effort. Does it break down a…

I'm having trouble at 150k, but I'm not sure the issue is that per se, as opposed to the issue of the set of relevant context which is easy to find. The relevant part of the context threatens to bring in disparate parts of the codebase. The easy to find part determines whether a human has to manually curate the context.

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#53

He's totally correct on the extraction that companies do (always has been). What I kinda disagree is the notion that if a company doesn't go the same path as these others, where everyone is "10x'ing" with AI, that they will suddenly disappear. I really don't think it will work that way. Yeah, some might if another company/startup goes after their business and they build faster, but building faster doesn't mean your b…

I agree with this.

1. Moats and products have already been built, so it's really about startups that are racing to get products/features to market.

2. I've slowly learnt in my own career that you need to really be careful with picking what you build. It doesn't matter if it's waterfall or a quick agile "experiment", it all takes time and focus. So the more you can design/refine/roadshow/validate your ideas before any code is touched, the better off you'll be.

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#54
Luckily we work for ourselves in our studio, and I have no one to answer to except my business partner and customers, and tech is my domain. But I have concluded "we already build fast enough." Really how much faster do we need to build? Deployments: automated. Tests: automated. Migrations: automated. Frameworks: complete. Stack: stable. Scaling: solved. OKAY so now with AI we can build "MORE!" More of WHAT exactly? What makes our lives better? What makes our customers happier? How about I just directly feed customer support tickets into Claude and let it rip.

I'm increasingly thinking either people were terrible developers, used shit tools to begin with, or are in a mass psychosis. I certainly feel bad for anyone reporting to "the business guy." He never respected you to begin with, and now he literally thinks "why are you so slow? I can build Airbnb in a weekend."

For someone who previously could achieve nothing, these tools are magical, as they can now achieve something. It feels to them like infinity because their base was 0. That alone will create a lot of things they wouldn't have been able to, good for them. However for people who already know what they're doing, I only feel slightly pushed along some asymptote. My bottlenecks simply are not measured in tokens to screen.

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#55
The source of the addiction is that an amount of effort is highly likely to result in a fulfilling outcome. That makes you want to make more effort. In the past, a lot of work was very futile, very tedious and often felt hopeless and that made people essentially give up. So this is a very good problem to have. I guess people should monitor their own output and try to pace themselves. But also be grateful that we have these capabilities that allow us to solve so many problems and achieve so many of the things that we want in life.

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#56
> all your complaining about AI not being useful for real-world tasks is obsolete... let’s not quibble about the exact productivity boost from AI

No, that's exactly the purpose of this ending up on HN.

> if you give an engineer Claude Code, then once they’re fluent, their work stream will produce nine additional engineers’ worth of value. For someone.

Nope.

> you decide you’re going to impress your employer, and work for 8 hours a day at 10x productivity. You knock it out of the park and make everyone else look terrible by comparison.

Pure junior dev fantasy. Nobody cares about how many hours you "really" work, or what you did as long as you meet their original requirements. They're going to ignore the rest no matter how much you try to talk a big game. This has been true since the beginning of employment.

> In that scenario, your employer captures 100% of the value from you adopting AI. You get nothing, or at any rate, it ain’t gonna be 9x your salary. And everyone hates you now.

Again, nobody cares.

> Congrats, you were just drained by a company. I’ve been drained to the point of burnout several times in my career, even at Google once or twice.

Pointless humblebrag that even we the readers don't care about.

> Now let’s look at Scenario B. You decide instead that you will only work for an hour a day, and aim to keep up with your peers using AI. On that heavily reduced workload, you manage to scrape by, and nobody notices.

This isn't a thing unless you were borderline worthless and junior to begin with.

> In this scenario, your company goes out of business. I’m sorry, but your victory over The Man will be pyrrhic, because The Man is about to be kicked in The Balls, since with everyone slacking off, a competitor will take them out pretty fast.

Hard disagree. Author has clearly never worked outside of a startup or silicon valley where the money is more mature.

Flagged for what is at best extreme ignorance, or more likely ragebait and bad faith hype for a ship that sailed several years ago. I don't know what else to do with these blog posts anymore.

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#59
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As a european, yes please America, get a union. Get 2 even. You're going too fast, you're way too successful, we can't keep up. So yes, please adopt our work ethic and legal framework. It's going to help us tremendously.

Are there any software engineer\quality assurance\any other IT related unions in EU? How do I join one?

At least in France, the general work legislation is generous enough that people in the industry don't feel the need to unionize. We've got 5 weeks holidays per year, plus additional ones if your work contract has more than 35hours of work per week.

Needless to say, burnouts are pretty rare. When they do, it's mostly because of toxic management which can't fire you because of legislation, so they just make your life miserable until you snap. I've also seen it happen in some startups where people have to take super long holidays after a successful exit because they've worked insane hours. However it was mostly self inflicted.

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#60

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I am with you on this, and you can't win, because as soon as you voice this opinion you get overwhelmed with "you dont have the sauce/prompt" opinions which hold an inherent fallacy because they assume you are solving the same problems as them. I work in GPU programming, so there is no way in hell that JavaScript tools and database wrapper tasks can be on equal terms with generating for example Blackwell tcgen05 warp…

In my experience LLMs are useless for GPU compute code, just not enough in the training set.

Another thing I've never got them to generate is any G code. Maybe that'll be in the image/3d generator side indirectly, but I was kind of hoping I could generate some motions since hand coding coordinates is very tedious. That would be a productivity boost for me. A very very niche boost, since I rarely need bespoke G code, but still.
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