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Re: Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

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Post by jghn »

GJim wrote: post #40
alexjplant wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, have such a work playlist entitled "Hack the Mainframe." It's got this type of stuff along with 90s/early 2000s breakbeat songs that ended up shoehorned into car and techno thriller movies at the time. I know a lot of this music was reviled as sellout trash at the time but I was too young to know any better when I first heard it and think it still holds up phenomenally well.

> sellout trash A trifle offtopic, but..... In the 1990's and for us Gen-X'ers, the worst thing you could do was to sell out; to take the mans money instead of keeping your integrity. Calling people and bands 'sell outs' (sometimes without justification!) was to insult them. With the rise of 'influencers' the opposite appears to be the case; people go out of their way to sell out and are praised for doing so. This is…

In a sense, society sold out

Re: Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

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Post by trentnix »

dylan604 wrote: post #19
trentnix wrote: post #3

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It's my favorite movie of all time, even though it's one of those movies that I don't expect anyone else to like. It's just a shot of joyful nostalgia right into my veins every time I watch it. Explorers, the Ethan Hawke and River Phoenix movie from the mid-80s, is my #2 for the same reasons.

Is Explorers the one with the Rollscanhardly joke? Stand By Me is in my top 5 for the same reasoning. I grew up in very small town out in the boonies where my friends and I would go exploring in the woods/creeks just without finding a body.

Yep that's Explorers!

I was a bit too young for Stand By Me. The subject matter was just too serious for me at that age. But I also grew up in a small town in the country where exploring was a normal thing.

I would meet kids from college that were from much larger towns and they'd complain "I grew up in so-and-so and there's NOTHING for kids to do there!"

I'd think to myself, "you have no idea what you're talking about. I used to go to your town to do stuff!"

Re: Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

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Post by cerebrum01 »

runjake wrote: post #48

I grew up hacking in the 1980s and I watched this movie and I totally hated it. Me and the hackers around me were more like War Games, but with skateboards and BMX bikes. On our best days, I likened us to the characters in the movie Sneakers, but no way, they were far more elite than us. Then this Hackers movie came out and it seemed like a laughable clown caricature of hacker culture. It was insulting, like I imagin…

If you like wargames and hackers, you might wanna check out Colossus. There's Halt and Catch Fire too though it's a TV show.

There's a list of similar films at the bottom of https://telehack.com/telehack.html

Re: Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

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Post by pjmlp »

apgwoz wrote: post #41
pjmlp wrote: post #24

"RISC architecture is gonna change everything." :)

Easily the most quoted part of the film, aside from “Hack the planet!!!!” … but also an amazing prediction! All the devices in our pockets are RISC machines. That did change everything.

I was going for the books initially, but isn't as much fun.

Regarding RISC, kind of, there have been compromises in the instruction sets.

Re: Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

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Post by Forgeties79 »

GJim wrote: post #50
dylan604 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really love how kids today are so inundated with 3D CGI that when they see well done practical shots like this and my other go to favorite of the submarines in Hunt For Red October it is immediately assumed as CGI as well. Then again, adults are no less fooled either. The size of the sets is also surprising but makes sense when the size of a film cameras used defined the scales. The HBO intro is another example tha…

> it is immediately assumed as CGI Remember seeing Raiders of the Lost Ark , watching Indiana Jones being dragged under a lorry by his whip and thinking "wow, that's a brilliant stunt"? Remember (or did you forget) seeing the latest Indiana Jones film with a CGI motorbike and a CGI Indiana Jones jumping onto a moving train? One will always be more impressive than the other.

I think it’s also important to remember that there are tons of terrible practicals out there, we just don’t think of them because they were bad and forgettable. Lots of great CG too that you likely never recognized as CG. Sicario is littered with examples. You’d be hard pressed to call out even most of them.

Re: Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

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Post by chrisfosterelli »

enkonta wrote: post #2

This movie had an unreasonable influence on me as a kid...as cheesy as it is, it still holds up as one of my top ten favorite movies.

The movie is obviously technical garbage but one thing it did well was capture that early hacker counterculture spirit. I think a lot of us can appreciate that for the warm blanket it is and forgive its technical accuracy and story flaws.

Re: Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

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Post by riffraff »

GJim wrote: post #40
alexjplant wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I, too, have such a work playlist entitled "Hack the Mainframe." It's got this type of stuff along with 90s/early 2000s breakbeat songs that ended up shoehorned into car and techno thriller movies at the time. I know a lot of this music was reviled as sellout trash at the time but I was too young to know any better when I first heard it and think it still holds up phenomenally well.

> sellout trash A trifle offtopic, but..... In the 1990's and for us Gen-X'ers, the worst thing you could do was to sell out; to take the mans money instead of keeping your integrity. Calling people and bands 'sell outs' (sometimes without justification!) was to insult them. With the rise of 'influencers' the opposite appears to be the case; people go out of their way to sell out and are praised for doing so. This is…

This is insightful. But I'm not sure it's completely true, I think people just have shifted their perception of what selling out means.

Content creators on YouTube, for example, get criticized when they literally sell their brand to a larger conglomerate. It seems people do not complain if they do sponsorizations tho.

Re: Hackers (1995) Animated Experience

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Post by trentnix »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #56
GJim wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it is immediately assumed as CGI Remember seeing Raiders of the Lost Ark , watching Indiana Jones being dragged under a lorry by his whip and thinking "wow, that's a brilliant stunt"? Remember (or did you forget) seeing the latest Indiana Jones film with a CGI motorbike and a CGI Indiana Jones jumping onto a moving train? One will always be more impressive than the other.

I think it’s also important to remember that there are tons of terrible practicals out there, we just don’t think of them because they were bad and forgettable. Lots of great CG too that you likely never recognized as CG. Sicario is littered with examples. You’d be hard pressed to call out even most of them.

That's true on there being lots of terrible practical effects out there. The parent lauded Raiders of the Lost Ark for its practical effects. In contrast, Last Crusade was a great movie that had a few practical effects that were terrible. The scene with the tank going over the edge of the cliff is so bad and so fake that I could help rewind and pause to laugh at it when I was a kid.
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