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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Maybe they should look more at how other countries quite successfully banned fire arms. Hint: it wasn't by banning printers.

It's not about banning, it's about taxing. Distilling liquor without paying taxes is illegal.

This is handled without banning glass containers.

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Why would I bother with an unreliable 3D printed zip gun and 3D printing when I can go and get a real working gun off the street for a few hundred? Edit, reading further it's even more insane: > The New York definitions sweep in not just FDM and resin printers, but also CNC mills and “any machine capable of making three-dimensional modifications to an object from a digital design file using subtractive manufacturing.…

The only time a 3d printed gun is useful is if your country is occupied and you have a chance to secretly shoot one of the occupiers if only you could get a gun past their confiscation. Otherwise it is an interesting toy that you might shoot once to say you did it.

I don't know where you get bullets for the gun though.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

#53

But not CNC machines?

Yeah they should also ban metal working in New York... The stupidest thing is you can go to another state and buy a gun in Walmart, why even bother to build a plastic gun in the US?

To get it through security somewhere with metal detectors. That's probably the only reason to specifically fear a 3D-printed gun in a nation full of proper guns.

Of course, 3D printed plastic ammo isn't likely to be very effective.

(Maybe they're worried that before long, 3D printing with metal will almost as easy and affordable as plastic 3D printing is now, and people will be printing off entire arsenals of very effective firearms?)

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Policy in the pursuit of easy political narrative wins looks like this. US gun crime is a national issue, and therefore unsolvable in the current political climate, so useless posturing like this is what we're left with.

The real fix is something like a nationwide licensing system like for cars, with auditing of weapons and weapon storage.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they should look more at how other countries quite successfully banned fire arms. Hint: it wasn't by banning printers.

They could attempt it, but the Second Amendment is quite clear that a constitutional amendment would be necessary to ban firearms and ammunition.

Forearms yes, percussion caps no.

A large fraction of the harm from firearms comes from their ability to fire rapidly which didn’t exist when the constitution was written. As such it was making a very different balance of risk between the general public and individuals.

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It's not illegal to make your own firearm, you just can't sell it.

Dexter Taylor is serving 10 years for doing so in NYC without a license[]. The guns were never used or even left his home, and he is not otherwise involved in crime. Also in NY it's illegal to make an unserialized firearm. I have no idea what the serialization requirements are there, but what California did was require you report them to DROS. Also, federally, not legal advice -- but I'm not aware there's any law aga…

In Washington state I believe you need to serialize each firearm as well.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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Hmmm... this is literally the intro of the narrative arc in the game that I'm making. Governments confiscating 3D Printers, powerful GPUs, robotic parts to prevent "simple people" the access to "dangerous technologies". For their own good of course.

Re: New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they should look more at how other countries quite successfully banned fire arms. Hint: it wasn't by banning printers.

It's not about banning, it's about taxing. Distilling liquor without paying taxes is illegal.

> Distilling liquor without paying taxes is illegal.

One can always expect the "don't thread on me" country to have some of the craziest, most intrusive rules at the most random places.

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