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Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

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Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

#51
I haven't set up my kids on social media. They haven't asked either. I do worry that banning kids from doing something makes it all the more intriguing to them when they are then allowed... Or makes the kids that lie and get on anyway "cool"

I do hope it works out, though. I think Social Media is one of the main reasons for depression.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

#52

So... de-facto mass deanonymisation of all Spanish social media users? I see a lot of supporters of these policies either not acknowledge that you can't identify under-16yo without identifying over-16yos.

There was a point in time where I though of social media as an invention that facilitates the freedom of speech.

Recent years changed that perception completely. It's a platform where russian oligarchs create discord in Europe cheaply (and the West in general) and American oligarchs profit from it.

I don't have any hopes left that the business will deliver us freedom of speech in any form. Next best bet is democratically elected government.

When you put on top of this how some things like youth suicides, youth grneral mental health decline, number of people killed in school shootings in US correlates with development of social media I will happily see it burn.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

#53
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need ID to buy cigarettes and alcohol, prescription drugs or to get sim card... you will need it to register for social network account... do not seem as big of a deal to me. Even less when considering all the positives.

American here. it's a very big deal.

Then there's nothing for you here, you don't live in Spain.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

#54
post #43

So... de-facto mass deanonymisation of all Spanish social media users? I see a lot of supporters of these policies either not acknowledge that you can't identify under-16yo without identifying over-16yos.

While I'm in favour of limiting social media for kids, there doesn't seem to be a right way to do it unless this system doesn't store identification data, just confirms their age and deletes everything.

It's possible to build an identity system that can assert certain properties about a person (eg. "older than 16") without revealing any other details about that person. Similarly, it's also possible to build such a system where the identity system can attest these details without knowing which website is being accessed. That way, the social media site (or whatever other "adult" service) can validate the user is old enough, while the identity system doesnt track who is using what.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

#57
A lot of teenagers complain they spend too much time on social media and this will put some friction that wasn’t present before. I assume this will put a dent in traffic for companies like SnapChat etc. so I wonder how those companies will react.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

#58
post #10

This is really globally coordinated, isn't it? I'm just not sure why now and not previously. Is it just that Twitter went over the toxicity threshold that everyone noticed?

Why now? Because in the past 2-3 years it has been made abundantly clear that:

(a) Social media operators choose to do nothing at all against coordinated influencing operations, unless the influencing goes against the interests of very specific countries and groups.

(b) US government most likely has unfettered access to social media data. As if this isn't bad enough, they will probably give them out to Palantir for "data integration" and under uncertain terms.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

#59
This sure will imply that over-16 users will have to also authenticate themselves using some kind of personal id (DNI, I guess?)

As a non-user of social media (only have an anonymous Facebook account to check some hobby groups) this doesn't directly affect me but I'm starting to feel like a frog on a pot of what was tepid water and now it's starting to feel kinda hot.

Re: Spain to ban social media access for under-16s, PM Sanchez says

#60

This sure will imply that over-16 users will have to also authenticate themselves using some kind of personal id (DNI, I guess?) As a non-user of social media (only have an anonymous Facebook account to check some hobby groups) this doesn't directly affect me but I'm starting to feel like a frog on a pot of what was tepid water and now it's starting to feel kinda hot.

Of does affect you, it has always done. Not using social media has been a marker, placing some negative incentive on joining social media will help normalize people like you
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