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Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by bitwize »

troupo wrote: post #14
adzm wrote: post #13

Headline is out of date. They changed their plans. From the link: > We are not discontinuing or removing access to Adobe Animate. Animate will continue to be available for both current and new customers, and we will ensure you continue to have access to your content. There is no longer a deadline or date by which Animate will no longer be available.

They only "changed" them because it materially affected them. "We're going to provide support and security patches" means "in a year we'll quietly stop any work on it anyway"

Kinda like what happened with Xorg. WHOOPS DID I JUST SAY THAT OUT LOUD

Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by seg_lol »

troupo wrote: post #27
pjc50 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a cartoon on bluesky with the dialogue: "we've listened and we're going to keep offering Animate" (crowd cheers) ".. but we're not going to make any changes to the software" (crowd cheers louder) "wait why are they still cheering" .. the joke being that the customers don't want the software to materially change, just so long as it continues to run.

We have to learn that a lot of software can be just that: done, without requiring a continuous of new superfluous features

Knowing how to finish can be just as important as how to start.

Or, a bad finish can absolutely ruin a good start.

Adobe has no clue how unattractive it is right now.

Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by ishanmahapatra »

presbyterian wrote: post #49
WillAdams wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is Wick Editor (which I mentioned elsethread) https://www.wickeditor.com/#/

Unfortunately, it's been abandoned for a while now.

There are some forks of it that seem more recent:

1. Candlestick https://github.com/Candlestickers/Candlestick

2. StickmanRed’s Fork https://github.com/StickmanRed/wick-editor

3. This brand new fork: https://forum.wickeditor.com/t/started-my-own-fork-luke-tool...

Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by dandare »

I would love my kids to have access to Flash and learn to build games the way I did. Unfortunately, £32.98/month for Animate is just too expensive.

As far as I know, there is nothing comparable to the Flash experience on the market.

Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by rchaud »

Conan_Kudo wrote: post #47
lukan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have the web, we don't need ruffle, what we need is indeed a open source flash editor. Wick editor was quite close, by outputting standalone html files https://www.wickeditor.com/ Of course, not at all on the same level like flash was, but some parts worked really nice. Unfortunately it is abandoned. (I thought about taking it up, but would require lots of effort, basically rewriting core parts)

The web is awful as a programming environment. It's popular because it's everywhere, not because it's good.

Rather a warts-and-all open web than a pay-to-play walled garden where you have to pay the feudal lord a tax for sharecropping on their land.

Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by rchaud »

koolala wrote: post #20
ciroduran wrote: post #5

Notice that it's still very much possible to produce SWF files with languages like Haxe http://haxe.org/ , and there are frameworks that mimic the Flash drawing API like OpenFL https://www.openfl.org/ , there is (or was) a lot of interesting stuff like that happening around.

Can't modern Flash compile to HTML5? Can the open alternatives also do that? I wish SWF became a common HTML5 transpile format.

Flash required a browser plugin to work. It was handling video and 3D animation a decade before the and elements were added to the HTML5 spec.

Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by didjdjdj283 »

rchaud wrote: post #56
Conan_Kudo wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web is awful as a programming environment. It's popular because it's everywhere, not because it's good.

Rather a warts-and-all open web than a pay-to-play walled garden where you have to pay the feudal lord a tax for sharecropping on their land.

there are alternatives both in the past (perpetual software) and hopefully in the future

Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by tombert »

nullbyte808 wrote: post #34
tombert wrote: post #15

I am glad to see that they’re backing off from discontinuing. I would really, really like it if they would let me buy it outright instead of subscribing. I’ve mentioned this on here before, but I stand by it: developing Flash is the most fun way I have found to program. Now, part of this is because Flash was one of the first things that I learned to program, so it’s probably a big rose-tinted because i was younger an…

https://ruffle.rs/compatibility

I know but I was talking about the editor itself, not the resulting applications.

Re: Adobe Animate will be discontinued

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Post by tombert »

gyomu wrote: post #32
tombert wrote: post #15

I am glad to see that they’re backing off from discontinuing. I would really, really like it if they would let me buy it outright instead of subscribing. I’ve mentioned this on here before, but I stand by it: developing Flash is the most fun way I have found to program. Now, part of this is because Flash was one of the first things that I learned to program, so it’s probably a big rose-tinted because i was younger an…

The base feature set of a tool like Flash has been stable for well over a decade (maybe even two) now; why has no one spun up some agents and released an open source clone of Flash that runs on all major platforms for everyone to enjoy without giving any money to Adobe?

You know what? This seems like as good an excuse as any to try out the new Codex release. I'm going to try and see if I can clone it in Rust.
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