Everyone is missing the why here, this only happens because the whole stack is vertically integrated. Even if say LG wanted to make a box like this and update it for 10 years they couldn’t, they don’t make the chips. Qualcomm straight up refuses to support chips through this many Android releases. Even if device manufacturers want to support devices forever it won’t matter if the actual SoC platform drops support.
Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
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Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
#52I have had two for 10 years and have no complaints whatsoever
The lack of hardware support for a few modern codecs is a pretty big complaint from me, but nothing else out there is decent :/
The Apple TV's pretty good. I imagine I'd have a hard time switching to a Shield TV unless it gets a CPU bump, whereas Apple still keeps making newer models with modern-ish phone SoCs.
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#53I love the NVIDIA Shield as a technical product...but...I really wish they spent some effort on User Experience.
If memory serves the launcher/ui is out of their control. It is GoogleTVs launcher and they are forced to use it.
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#54I love my shield, it’s been a staple. If they wanted to really knock it out the park, the next step would be a steamos port with DRM support.
Unless Valve are going to do some work to enable that and support a hardware backed chain of trust for drivers that's not going to happen.
(I think it should happen but that's not the same as that it will.)
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#55The Shield TV's cylindrical form factor could use a rethink. It is hard to find a good spot for it on a shelf when cords are connected at both ends (HDMI and MMC slot at one end, power and LAN at the other) and the ports are too close for all cords to use right-angle-heads. Leaving it invisible by placing it on the floor or behind other gear sometimes impedes Bluetooth signal, so there it sits, well apart from the AV…
The Flying Spaghetti Monster blessed you with CAD and a 3D printer for such tasks.
The solution to it being clunky can't be to add mass to it. Unless you're proposing transferring the internals to a new case and facing all the ports to the back. Seriously, look at this thing. The best thing you can do is tie-wrap the cables together.
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#56That reminds me of my own Samsung Galaxy SII.
Shipped out of the box with Android 2.3, Samsung supported it up until Android 4.1, then I switched to CyanogenMod until my father rage-bought me a new phone in 2016 because it crashed so much he had trouble contacting me. I still kept it up to date with LineageOS and then unofficial versions for fun (it's at Android 13 last I checked).
Do I expect a Samsung Galaxy SII to do as well with 2026 software as it did in 2013? No, but I can run a 2013 computer with 2026 software without needing to track down dodgy homebrews on xdaforums.com and that reflects badly on the smartphone ecosystem.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
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Look at their valuation for those 20 years compared to today. What was their valuation 10 years ago?
Oh, I'm familiar with the valuation. They were able to build this device and provide a Android TV certified 4K device that didn't need to have planned obsoleteness.
I mean the main reason it exists is because. Nvidia spent a bunch of money designing and fabbing the Tegra for automotive use and nobody bought it so the project was desperate to find a customer rather than out of the goodness of their hearts. That's also why they sold it to Nintendo at a bargain basement price for the Switch.
I strongly suspect the reality is that they had to give Nintendo so much money back due to the complete failure of the bootloader security that they still produce the Shield as Jensen still demands they claw their way back to break even.
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#58I've got the OG model, and it's still the main device hooked up to my TV. All my TV streaming goes through it (mostly Jellyfin these days), and it can stream games no problem via Moonlight. It's hooked up to a 4k LG TV, and I have no idea about how it does the upscaling, but 720p content looks perfectly fine on it. Best (worst?) of all... it still gets updates.
Yeah I just loved the one where they forced ads on the homescreen. Now I use ProjectIvy
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#59Shield TV + extra storage + HDHomeRun tuner is still a great device for getting OTA TV. The only downside is that more recent versions use the Google Android TV launcher which is filled with a garbage truck full of ads, often for things I would never want to watch (horror movies? Nope!). Yes you can replace the launcher, but that's a pain. Would love to pay more for a device that has updated codec support, no ads or…
I wanted to do this and got a Shield last year but returned it because of a live TV bug with the Android Plex client. The programming guide stopped working and could only be fixed by restarting the app, but on Android quitting to the home screen keeps the app running and you can't force quit without going into menus. Sadly that's the OS and changing a launcher didn't fix it.
Re: Nvidia's 10-year effort to make the Shield TV the most updated Android device
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I thought about this but what would it have that is missing? Hardware decoding for newer codec like AV1 is one thing, but what else? I have two of these one in my living room and one in my bedroom. They are the best devices for playing pirate Emby servers 4k Remuxes with dolby vision and dolby audio support direct play. A refresh comes out I'm not sure I would buy one.
More horsepower would be nice. More connectivity. But I think most importantly: confirmation that this isn't a dead end product.
You mean "finished", as in complete