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The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

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Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

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It's not real, but it's still a fine story.

How do you know?

It's an urban legend that's floated around in various forms: in some it's an ice cream parlor rather than a store and they pack the vanilla faster, in some it's only the vanilla that gets hand-packed so it takes longer, it's pistachio that takes longer and triggers the problem, or butter pecan.

Snopes covered this one and they cite to an urban legends book from 1989: "Curses, Broiled Again" by Jan Harold Brunvand. Brunvand prints the "vanilla takes longer" version and reports also having a "pistachio takes longer" version printed in a magazine in 1978, which itself referred to another magazine as its source. In the book's version it's a Texas car dealer who's looking into the problem. The same author's later book from 1999 covers the story again and includes versions dating back further, plus a 1992 version which is this one where it's Pontiac and the problem is the vanilla being in a separate case at the front of the store.

In the Pontiac version you can go and pick at various implausible details stacked up together, that Pontiac's president cares enough to send an engineer out, that the engineer is there when the car won't start on the first night but still just comes back many more times rather than looking at the car or presumably noticing that it starts a couple minutes later, that this guy is buying a new container of ice cream every night and never stocking up, that he never takes any other trip where it's a short stop... You can go on each of those and say they do happen: like presidents and CEOs do sometimes go digging deep on random problems customers put in front of them. But if you look at the whole thing I think you need to recognize it as a piece of storytelling, not fact.

Maybe there's some kernel of a true story in there, but if so it's probably a pretty small kernel. Anyway it doesn't matter much: it's just a fun story that teaches a little lesson so people like to share it around.

Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

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My only unsolved networking mystery was that my computer would experience high packet loss when a Roku in the other room was streaming Netflix. My PC and the roku device were both wired to two different ports on a router (iirc an Edgerouter X running openwrt at the time). This didn't repro when the roku streamed other services (hulu/youtube tested), only netflix. This also didn't repro if the roku was connected over…

QoS?

Does sound like a QoS thing, but I would think QoS still applies over WiFi so I'm not sure

Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

#53
I once had a s775 gigabyte motherboard which would bluescreen on each cold boot. after the bluescreen it would boot successfully - this was both in windows and linux. the workaround was to wait for the bios beep and then hit reset. it worked like that for 6 years lmfao.

same computer did not start if any of its metal surfaces touched the wall, but that might have been a electrical leak - thankfully i do not live at that dump still

Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

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post #34

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> A friend told me once that his mouse stops working when someone is using the microwave. His room was on the backside of the kitchen. I had to disable a 2.4ghz access point a couple years ago because a bathroom had a passive IR detector for the light switch that would never let the light shutoff. Because detecting IR is a pretty weak signal, I guess these switches amplify it. The issue is the circuit also acts as a…

If you strum an electric guitar and let the hertz of the string fall through the range of AM radio the amp will briefly pickup AM radio stations. Not that you can decipher anything but you recognize voices as it travels past the station.

That's not because of the frequency of the guitar but because the guitar functions as a very nice antenna (long piece of metal (the strong) + a coil forming a tuned circuit), what happens is that your hands create a very temporary partial diode where you touch the strings!

Such naturally occurring diodes are an interesting phenomenon (in this case: the salt in your sweat interacting with the steel of the strings) and were the basis of the very first radio receivers after the 'Coherer' (which is a word that has fallen out of use so far that it registers as a spelling error on my browser!).

Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

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Easier, and probably even cheaper to upgrade a pair of wifi transceivers than negotiating with the neighbor to cut his tree.

Mainly because error correction is not free, you pay for extra bits and retries.

But only a bit extra.

This also taught me that if I have wifi issues, I should do a tree search

/s

Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

#57
>With a bit of work, my dad set up a line-of-sight Wi-Fi bridge — a couple of high-gain directional Wi-Fi antennas pointed at each other — between the office and our apartment.

How was that not the first thing to be checked ? OP must have hit themselves over the head for not thinking of that one sooner

Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

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I've collected a list of fun stories of this form and post them when this comes up: - Car allergic to vanilla ice cream: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~wkw/humour/carproblems.txt - Can't log in when standing up: https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/3v52p... - OpenOffice won't print on Tuesdays: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161...

Here you have another one, although is not named like that: https://web.archive.org/web/20241112052925/https://cohost.or...

Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

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Huh, my initial expectation was wrong! I figured (even until close to the end of the article) that the problem was a dramatic increase in the amount of wi-fi or other 2.4GHz traffic in the area leading to interference, some of which was blocked by rain thus allowing more stable local connections.

I still think that's actually what happened here. A tree in the middle of a 2.4 or 5ghz beam would have an effect, but its branches moving by a few inches would not have this much of an effect.

Re: The WiFi only works when it's raining (2024)

#60

I've collected a list of fun stories of this form and post them when this comes up: - Car allergic to vanilla ice cream: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~wkw/humour/carproblems.txt - Can't log in when standing up: https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/3v52p... - OpenOffice won't print on Tuesdays: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161...

> Can't log in when standing up This reminds me of a recent issue I had. I had just gotten a new laptop from IT. While picking it up from them, I had generated myself a password, put it in my password manager on my phone, and then entered it twice to set it on the laptop. Everything worked great. But when I got back to my desk, the password didn't work! I tried a bunch of times, watched myself hit each key to elimina…

It's worth noting that sometimes (incorrect) keyboard maps can get in the way.

If it's a key that you may not often type and one that is often transposed between regions, the fact that the entered char is not shown can lead to frustration.

e.g. " and @ are in different positions in UK vs. US keyboards. So user thinks they are typing @, but " goes into the box.

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