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Re: LM Studio 0.4

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Not always. Besides, this allows one to use a post-trained model, a heretic model, an abliterated model, or their own. I exclusively run local models. On par with Opus 4.5 for most things. gpt-oss is pretty capable. Qwen3 as well.

> On par with Opus 4.5 for most things ? Are you asking it for capital cities or what?

No…

I’m asking it to write C code

Re: LM Studio 0.4

#52
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Personally, I would not run LM Studio anywhere outside of my local network as it still doesn't support adding an SSL cert. I guess you can just layer a proxy server on top of it, but if it's meant to be easy to set up, it seems like a quick win that I don't see any reason not to build support for. https://github.com/lmstudio-ai/lmstudio-bug-tracker/issues/1...

If you're running your apps on Kubernetes, standard ingress supports certs. For small applications, Cloudflare TLS on free tier is dead simple

Re: LM Studio 0.4

#53

What exactly is the difference between lms and llmsterm?

> What exactly is the difference between lms and llmsterm?

With lms, LM Studio's frontend GUI/desktop application and its backend LLM API server (for OpenAI compatibility API endpoints) are tightly coupled: stopping LM Studio's GUI/desktop application will trigger stopping of LM Studio's backend LLM API server.

With llmsterm, they've been decoupled now; it (llmsterm) enables one, as LM Studio announcement says, to "deploy on servers, deploy in CI, deploy anywhere" (where having a GUI/desktop application doesn't make sense).

Re: LM Studio 0.4

#54
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I agree with this comment here. For me the main BIG deal is that cloud models have online search embedded etc, while this one doesn't. However, if you don't need that (e.g., translate, summarize text, writing code) probably is good enough.

you can do web searches in lm studio. just connect an mcp that does it. Serpapi has an mcp, for example

Also, I had several experiments where I was interested in just 5 to 10 websites with application specific information so it works nicely for fast dev to spider, keep a local index, then get very low search latency. Obviously this is not a general solution but is nice for some use cases.

Re: LM Studio 0.4

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What’s the main use-case for this? I get that I can run local models, but all the paid for (remote) models are superior. So is the use-case just for people who don’t want to use big tech’s models? Is this just for privacy conscious people? Or is this just for “adult” chats, ie porn bots? Not being cynical here, just wanting to understand the genuine reasons people are using it.

I run a separate memory layer between my local and my chat.

Without a ton of hassle I cannot do that with a public model(without paying API pricing).

My responses may be slower, but I know the historical context is going to be there. As well as the model overrides.

In addition I can bolt on modules as I feel like it(voice, avatar, silly tavern to list a few).

I get to control my model by selecting specific ones for tasks, I can upgrade as they are released.

These are the reasons I use local.

I do use Claude for a coding junior so I can assign tasks and review it, purely because I do not have something that can replicate that locally on my setup(hardware wise, but from what I have read local coding models are not matching Claude yet)

That's more than likely a temporary issue(years not weeks with the expensive of things and state of open models specialising in coding).

Re: LM Studio 0.4

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I'm really glad I bought Strix Halo. It's a beast of a system, and it runs models that an RTX 6000 Pro costing almost 5x as much can't touch. It's a great addition to my existing Nvidia GPU (4080) which can't even run Qwen3-Next-80B without heavy quantization, let alone 100B+, 200B+, 300B+ models, and unlike GB10, I'm not stuck with ARM cores and the ARM software ecosystem. To your point though, if the successors to…

im sure the clang compile times are very respectable, but for llms? paltry 200gb/sec compared to the rtx 6000 pros 1.8tb.

sure you can load big(-ish) models on it, but if youre getting <10 tokens per second, that severely limits how useful it is.

Re: LM Studio 0.4

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I'm really glad I bought Strix Halo. It's a beast of a system, and it runs models that an RTX 6000 Pro costing almost 5x as much can't touch. It's a great addition to my existing Nvidia GPU (4080) which can't even run Qwen3-Next-80B without heavy quantization, let alone 100B+, 200B+, 300B+ models, and unlike GB10, I'm not stuck with ARM cores and the ARM software ecosystem. To your point though, if the successors to…

im sure the clang compile times are very respectable, but for llms? paltry 200gb/sec compared to the rtx 6000 pros 1.8tb. sure you can load big(-ish) models on it, but if youre getting <10 tokens per second, that severely limits how useful it is.

With kv caching, most of the MoE models are very usable in claude code. Active params seems to dominate TG speeds, and unlike PP, TG speeds don't decay much even with context length growth.

Even moderately large and capable models like gpt-oss:120b and Qwen3-Next-80B have pretty good TG speeds - think 50+ tok/s TG on gpt-oss:120b.

PP is the main thing that suffers due to memory bandwidth, particularly for very long PP stretches on typical transformers models, per the quadratic attention needs, but like I said, with KV caching, not a big deal.

Additionally, newer architectures like hybrid linear attention (Qwen3-Next) and hybrid mamba (Nemotron) exhibit much less PP degradation over longer contexts, not that I'm doing much long context processing thanks to KV caching.

My 4080 is absolutely several times faster... on the teeny tiny models that fit on it. Could I have done something like a 5090 or dual 3090 setup? Sure. Just keep in mind I spent considerably less on my entire Strix Halo rig (a Beelink GTR 9 Pro, $1980 w/ coupon + pre-order pricing) than a single 5090 ($3k+ for just the card, easily $4k+ for a complete PCIe 5 system), it draws ~110W on Vulkan workloads, and idles below 10W, taking up about as much space as a Gamecube. Comparing it to an $8500 RTX 6000 Pro is a completely nonsensical comparison and was outside of my budget in the first place.

Where I will absolutely give your argument credit: for AI outside of LLMs (think genAI, text2img, text2vid, img2img, img2vid, text2audio, etc), Nvidia just works while Strix Halo just doesn't. For ComfyUI workloads, I'm still strictly using my 4080. Those aren't really very important to me, though.

Also, as a final note, Strix Halo's theoretical MBW is 256 GB/s, I routinely see ~220 GB/s real world, not 200 GB/s. Small difference when comparing to GDDR7 on a 512 bit bus, but point stands.

Re: LM Studio 0.4

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post #53

What exactly is the difference between lms and llmsterm?

> What exactly is the difference between lms and llmsterm? With lms, LM Studio's frontend GUI/desktop application and its backend LLM API server (for OpenAI compatibility API endpoints) are tightly coupled: stopping LM Studio's GUI/desktop application will trigger stopping of LM Studio's backend LLM API server. With llmsterm, they've been decoupled now; it (llmsterm) enables one, as LM Studio announcement says, to "d…

But like, llmsterm still results in using the `lms` command, right? Or am I misreading the docs?

Re: LM Studio 0.4

#60
I've been using Ollama for local dev, but the model management here seems easier to use. The new UI looks much cleaner than the previous versions. Has anyone benchmarked the server mode against Ollama yet? The model management here is fantastic, but switching environments is a pain if the API compatibility isn't solid. Let's go with a mix of appreciation for the tool and a technical question about integration/performance, as that's classic HN.
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