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Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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I've got no interest in Ubuntu on a Nexus 7 but this gives me some hope they might do a semi-official port to those new $250 Chromebooks (assuming they are as open to hacking as the old chromebooks).

ARM based Linux ultrabook-alike on a high powered chip for $250? Now that would get me using Ubuntu again.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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I bet he meant the "Nexus 7's OS" as opposed to TouchWiz or Sense or whatever UI has been bolted on top of the Android innards. > You still get all the benefits of a full desktop OS like hunt-and-pecking in the smallish menus on a 7" screen? this is just ridiculous, and (given their UI plans) way too early to be useful.

"... as opposed to TouchWiz or Sense or whatever UI has been bolted on top of the Android innards." Uh, what? This is a Google/ASUS device, you won't find any of that stuff here. I'm pretty sure the Nexus 7 is as close to AOSP as you can get...

That's exactly what he said... I think you misunderstood and thought he said the exact opposite.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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I just install Synapse, which is very similar to the Quicksilver app on the Mac. Control+Space and you can type the name of the application that you wish to launch.

Does Synapse do anything that the regular unity searchbar+lenses doesn't?

Better auto-completion (I can type ref and it'll find Firefox and anything else that matches). Better file finding (I can take a screenshot and type 'scr' to find my screenshot instantly). Imgur uploading (I can find my screenshot, tab, down, enter to upload to imgur, copies url into my clipboard). Hooks into media players. Hooks into OS (can logout, suspend, shutdown). Better UX, left/right/up/down/tab are all binded to something useful. Faster. Can run on stuff besides Unity.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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Very simple use case: connect keyboard and mouse and you'll get portable linux workstation. It's a pity that there is no hdmi out but you shouldn't expect a lot from $200 tablet. As a bonus you'll have lots of open source packages (including various development tools) that will run just fine on this relatively powerful hardware. Most of the user-friendly ubuntu apps won't be usable without a mouse. There are also lot…

You mention HDMI out. $100 chinese tablets have it [1]. Arguably they don't have the same screen and quality battery as the Nexus 7. 1. http://www.ainolstore.com/ainol-novo-7-mars-cortex-a9-androi...

That's single core (not quad) and 1GHz (not 1.3GHz). But $87.99 is a great price if that's fast enough.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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Ubuntu for Android is a separate, but related effort. Again, quoting Mark: "We have two short cycles before we’re into the LTS, and by then we want to have the phone, tablet and TV all lined up." [speaking individually, not representing Canonical]

So there will be Ubuntu for Android and a separate Ubuntu Mobile? You probably can't answer that, but doesn't hurt to try :). Are you able to say anything about Ubuntu for Android? It's been pretty quiet ever since it got announced, though there was a video in August showing it off.

I will simply say that we've got a broad portfolio of current and future products, spanning the entire range from the data center down to your personal devices, and we are working hard at commercializing all of them.

Sorry for the platitudes; I'm not authorized to speak on behalf of anyone other than myself.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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This is my problem with Ubuntu and Unity, and why I much prefer Linux Mint as a "Windows replacement" OS. They say they made that side bar to "work well with touchscreen devices, too", but as we can see Unity on a touchscreen devices offers a pretty poor experience, and the sidebar is just about the only thing that is meant for touchscreens in Ubuntu. The global menu and everything else is clearly meant for a PC and…

Unity is a long way from perfect on tablet or PC. Having said that the sidebar has grown on me. Since almost every monitor out there is 16:9; vertical space is precious and another 50 pixels gives me another 2-3 lines of code on the screen. The best way to use the sidebar is to put your most commonly used program at the top and then launch them with Logo+ . If you spend some time setting up your shortcut keys you can…

Unity randomly loses focus of the active window for me, making it pretty annoying to use with the keyboard.

Additionally, it is hard to remember which number activates which program in the side-bar, and unfortunately it waits a long time before showing the numbers when pressing Winkey.

The old shortcuts to maximize/minimize windows (Alt-F10, Alt-F9) were replaced with more clunky shortcuts (Ctrl+Alt+5, Ctrl+Alt+0).

All in all, Unity was a pretty big regression over Gnome 2, when it comes to keyboard operability.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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So there will be Ubuntu for Android and a separate Ubuntu Mobile? You probably can't answer that, but doesn't hurt to try :). Are you able to say anything about Ubuntu for Android? It's been pretty quiet ever since it got announced, though there was a video in August showing it off.

I will simply say that we've got a broad portfolio of current and future products, spanning the entire range from the data center down to your personal devices, and we are working hard at commercializing all of them. Sorry for the platitudes; I'm not authorized to speak on behalf of anyone other than myself.

Completely understandable. Good luck in bringing those products to market, hopefully it's not too long before you'll be able to discuss them openly.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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I was an Ubuntu user for years. When tablets became famous, I was thinking: Wow, if I only could have Ubuntu on these devices. Then they lost me because of Unity. I tried several days, but it was simply not geared toward my workflow. Thank God I discovered Mint. Mint is awesome. Then they introduced this new find-something-thing that sends everything you type to their servers. A privacy nightmare. And a usability nig…

> I was a huge Ubuntu supporter from 2005 to 2012. And now I warn people to not use it. Wow, this is sad. Especially since it is so easy to install a different window manager on ubuntu. sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop will install xfce for example.

I tried it. But I like Gnome 2 a lot more then xfce. For example in xfce you cannot reorder the entries in the task bar.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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If the core includes sound drivers and a sensible structure to sound then bring it on... ...I know this is a niche area but the application of cheap touch tablets to sound synthesis software could open up a huge realm of activity. Then there is the use of a stylus for accurate work...

I wouldn't expect any huge departure from the existing sound architecture (PulseAudio, ALSA).

achiang,

Unfortunately (and, conversely, fortunately for Ubuntu) Android audio on tablets sucks. Especially when we talk low latency audio. It is bad, in the 100s of milliseconds of latency, which is laughable really for anyone who tries to do audio synthesis or any realtime audio features. So frankly, just bringing ALSA or PulseAudio to the table will hugely improve the situation.

Google is aware of the issue (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3434) it was starred about 2000 times with 400+ comments. Again, this is a niche area for some and most don't care, but those who do would love have an alternative to iPad for example, when it comes to audio latency performance.

Re: Ubuntu ported to the Nexus 7

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I've got no interest in Ubuntu on a Nexus 7 but this gives me some hope they might do a semi-official port to those new $250 Chromebooks (assuming they are as open to hacking as the old chromebooks). ARM based Linux ultrabook-alike on a high powered chip for $250? Now that would get me using Ubuntu again.

They probably won't officially support it because it is a consumer device. If you want Ubuntu on it, it will be community supported, or ask Samsung to do the work/pay them to port and support it.
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