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they should give some younger people a shot to move into these management positions.
Maybe those young people should form their own company
This is the correct answer in 2026.
Amazon braces for another major round of layoffs, 14,000 jobs at risk
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Where do you see that from the text of the letter to the ESD?
"While WARN requires only 60 days’ advance notice, Amazon is providing at least 90 days’ notice to all affected employees before their separations are scheduled to occur. Affected employees who accept internal transfer opportunities at Amazon prior to their separation date will not be separated as a result of this action." These people were told they were being laid off in October but remain on payroll. What Amazon i…
Oh, darn. You are right. Thanks for the clarification.
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#53That is why software engineers also need unions. (but the time to organize was back when we still had the upper hand)
> but the time to organize was back when we still had the upper hand
This is learned helplessness. It's not going to get better for software engineers anytime soon, I'm afraid.
The time to organize is like planting a tree: the best time is 20 years ago, and the second best time is now. Especially if you're an early-career SWE, you seem to have little to lose anyhow.
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#5410% over a year, split into two waves isn't that extreme. It seems like 5%/year is sort of industry norm.
> It seems like 5%/year is sort of industry norm. That's because the people running these companies learned the hard way not to write their collusion down, so now they just all totally coincidentally act in the same way that ends up driving wages down and keeping workers afraid and in line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...
It's not some global conspiracy, it just aligns with the end of the ZIRP era. Companies could ignore headcount and hire endlessly just to singla growth to investors, while free money was raining from the sky.
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#55Right now, amazon is packed full of L6 and L7 software managers, making 450-900k a year, that: 1. dont understand ai 2. have had the same skill set for 10 years 3. are working on autopilot, not trying to get promoted, just collecting paychecks 4. taking zero risk, follow protocol, play politics for the company to move forwards, they need a massive purge. 15k is childs play. too many employees that make too much money…
Fully agreed and those downvoting you are Amazon employees mad that they don’t get to bully and harass their subordinates anymore.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're making a common mistake. WARN is for the _previous_ layoff. The way they execute these, they bump out your effective last day such that there is no WARN notice till after it's already announced.
Where do you see that from the text of the letter to the ESD?
The date of the notice is October 28th. The separation dates given in the letter are 90 days out from the date of the notice (for some technical reasons, some employees had a separation dates a bit further out.)
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#5810% over a year, split into two waves isn't that extreme. It seems like 5%/year is sort of industry norm.
10% over a year on top of Amazon's 10% rank and yank. Thats a huge cut.
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ZIRP was also not the norm. Times change though.
But these are profitable companies, now their cash on hand can actually earn interest.
>But these are profitable companies
Q: You know what investors and shareholders love more than having 1 billion dollars?
A: Having 2 billion dollars. And with all the money being burned on AI, having 2 billion is better than 1.
If mass layoffs causes the stock to go from 1 to 2, then guess what's gonna happen?
In the ZIRP era companies would hire needlessly to get the stock up because that signaled growth to investors. Now it's the opposite, you trim because that gets the stock up, not because they conspire together to lay off people.
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They're fine expanding in India. Turns out announcing a $100k fee to distract from the Trump Gold Card announcement during the same press conference [3] leads to a reverse brain drain [0] and a $35B commitment to invest in India [1]. For example, much of AWS SageMaker's team is out of AWS India, and unofficially Amazonians on work visas are being offered transfers to India [2] while paying L6/7 [4] roughly the same a…
This is real. I work at one of the big tech and have access to their internal head count breakdowns. The overall headcount is mostly stagnant but the US headcount is decreasing with a corresponding increase in Europe and mostly India based HC.
The company I just left is firing as many people in the US as possible and rehiring primarily in India, with Dublin and Toronto by exception.
FedRAMP requires US persons on US soil, and so as far as Americans are concerned, only senior management and people working on the federal business are safe.