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ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Re: ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Post by slowhadoken »

goatlover wrote: post #43
slowhadoken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?

And yet all the other LE, agents, lawyers and judges don't wear masks.

A state and federal judge’s personal information is privileged to protect them from reprisals. Some of the most vulnerable people in the legal system are witnesses, hence witness protection programs which can involve plastic surgery.

Re: ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Post by anigbrowl »

slowhadoken wrote: post #26
defrost wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not so many with the masked unidentified death squads though, at least not in the G20.

People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?

The president of the US is a convicted criminal - 34 felony counts, no less. He has made or threatened war on several countries, and threatens it regularly against US citizens. Let's get real about who's doing the threatening here.

Re: ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Post by throwawayqqq11 »

slowhadoken wrote: post #47
throwawayqqq11 wrote: post #38

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No, you didnt. You basically said illigal immigration is bad because its illegal. You didnt include positive effects, like economic contribution. That positive conclusion about immigration is scientific consensus btw. Its easy to find if you dare to observe it.

I’m liberal so I believe in governmental regulation which includes legal immigration and labor rights. I believe illegal immigrants shouldn’t be exploited by private businesses and citizens should be paid a living wage.

Add a "well integrated illegal immigrants should have a path to citizenship" and you would contradict your first comment about illegal immigrants being harmful. What legallity is, is not written is stone.

Re: ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Post by UncleMeat »

slowhadoken wrote: post #33
fitblipper wrote: post #29

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That is far down the list of reasons someone might want to know who is performing actions against them with the backing of the federal government. Much higher on the list would be accountability if they do something wrong or to reference them in any follow up legal or administrative interactions they might have in the giant immigration system. How many judges hide their identity?

Doxxing is the first and most obvious reason. Federal agents aren’t directly subject to the public, their respective agencies and the President hold them accountable.

Bivens, in principle, provides a direct mechanism to sue federal agents who violate your rights.

Re: ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Post by mellosouls »

lc9er wrote: post #35
eoskx wrote: post #25

This has now been flagged twice today when it has a legitimate tech/privacy angle. Unbelievable.

I am regularly reminded that this site is filled not just with tech enthusiasts, but bootlickers that would do the dirty work of Zuck, Musk, and the current administration, all for a pat on the head and a few crumbs off the fascist plate.

Tbf it happens both ways (both are regrettable). If somebody posts a link that crosses political ground and might also be interpreted as favourable to Musk or similar, its a likely candidate for flagging by the leftists on here.

Re: ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Post by slowhadoken »

throwawayqqq11 wrote: post #53
slowhadoken wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m liberal so I believe in governmental regulation which includes legal immigration and labor rights. I believe illegal immigrants shouldn’t be exploited by private businesses and citizens should be paid a living wage.

Add a "well integrated illegal immigrants should have a path to citizenship" and you would contradict your first comment about illegal immigrants being harmful. What legallity is, is not written is stone.

If you’re a conservative capitalist that would sound good but I’m liberal. My understanding of government and liberalism is consistent with that of people like Bernie Sanders and Noam Chomsky. What you’re suggesting, by their standards, is a paradox.

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Post by slowhadoken »

lc9er wrote: post #34
slowhadoken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?

Then don’t be a cop, if you’re too scared. Law enforcement barely has any accountability as it is. Legit LEO do not hide their identity because they are accountable to the population they serve.

You’re advocating for coercion.

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Post by slowhadoken »

anigbrowl wrote: post #52
slowhadoken wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?

The president of the US is a convicted criminal - 34 felony counts, no less. He has made or threatened war on several countries, and threatens it regularly against US citizens. Let's get real about who's doing the threatening here.

non sequitur

Re: ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Post by slowhadoken »

UncleMeat wrote: post #54
slowhadoken wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doxxing is the first and most obvious reason. Federal agents aren’t directly subject to the public, their respective agencies and the President hold them accountable.

Bivens, in principle, provides a direct mechanism to sue federal agents who violate your rights.

That’s cool but Bivens doesn’t generally apply to ICE and it’s nearly impossible to create a case against them with that legal precedent.

Re: ICE Releases RFI for User Tracking Tools

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Post by slowhadoken »

scarecrowbob wrote: post #40
slowhadoken wrote: post #26

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People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?

I mean, yeah, that's how volks have always justified having secret police. That's probably literally the only justification for secret police. Congrats on being in favor of secret police, I guess....

hyperbole
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