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I'm 34. Here's 34 things I wish I knew at 21

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Re: I'm 34. Here's 34 things I wish I knew at 21

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Post by K0balt »

spicyusername wrote: post #14
ap99 wrote: post #10

> Eating meat is quite clearly immoral. Unless it will be detrimental to your health, eat as little as possible. Carnivorous animals, are they immoral?

One might argue the difference is that they are ignorant of the suffering caused by their behavior, and that the knowing and doing anyways is the moral problem, not just the doing. Alternately, one might argue the difference is that they have no alternative to inflicting suffering, and that having the option to reduce suffering and choosing to inflict it anyways is the moral problem, not just inflicting it.

I don’t think that mammals are, in general, ignorant of the character of harm, violence, and death. Animals even kill to end suffering. Life is short, brutal, and violent. We do what we can to make it less so.

Re: I'm 34. Here's 34 things I wish I knew at 21

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Post by aipatselarom »

Loughla wrote: post #26
theblazehen wrote: post #5

> If you're a man, one of your hardest battle may be not giving in to sexual urges that cause harm to others. History is littered with otherwise entirely brilliant men who succeeded at everything but this. You must succeed. I'm not sure I like the framing of this

Uh, yeah. I've been a man my entire life and I've never ever had a problem with wanting to let my sexual urges cause harm to others. I have a very high libido even. Not once has this been a problem. The fuck is this about?

Same.

Leaving aside the "If you're a man ..." condescending crap, that "cause harm to others" bit reveals a lot about the author.

Sorry pal, you're alone on that hill.

Re: I'm 34. Here's 34 things I wish I knew at 21

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Post by blueflow »

akimbostrawman wrote: post #46
comrade1234 wrote: post #9

35. Women can be as horny and lonely as men and all you need to do is talk to them to meet them. This was a revelation to me in my early-thirties.

>This was a revelation to me in my early-thirties Have you considered that this had less to do with how you acted but more with your marked value increasing and there's decreasing?

Maybe its that the social norms around sex are that women do not enjoy it and men have to force it on them.

The harm of that is that women feel shame for enjoying it and men feel shame for wanting it.

The social norms are garbage, at some point in life you figure it out by experience...

Re: I'm 34. Here's 34 things I wish I knew at 21

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Post by aipatselarom »

dwpdwpdwpdwpdwp wrote: post #49
Loughla wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh, yeah. I've been a man my entire life and I've never ever had a problem with wanting to let my sexual urges cause harm to others. I have a very high libido even. Not once has this been a problem. The fuck is this about?

Ask a divorce lawyer that question.

If you actually did that you'd know most domestic violence is from women towards men.

But it doesn't transcend as men are usually way stronger and just brush it off.

Hint: It's so prevalent it's even considered "funny".

Re: I'm 34. Here's 34 things I wish I knew at 21

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Post by elliotmy »

Madmallard wrote: post #19

"Eating meat is quite clearly immoral. Unless it will be detrimental to your health, eat as little as possible." lol

Hi there – author of the post here. I eat meat – to my shame. Unless you're rearing your own livestock and giving them happy lives and a painless slaughter, I consider eating meat immoral. Aniamls bred for food are kept in awful conditions and killed usually in inhumane ways. I think it's tough to claim eating the results of the the mass livestock industry isn't anything other than supporting the torture of animals. Animals who have the ability to think and feel. It's simply wrong. I would even argue it's this centuries slavery, in that it's something future generations will look back on us in shock, unable to comprehend how we were okay with it all.

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Post by xnx »

theblazehen wrote: post #5

> If you're a man, one of your hardest battle may be not giving in to sexual urges that cause harm to others. History is littered with otherwise entirely brilliant men who succeeded at everything but this. You must succeed. I'm not sure I like the framing of this

It is poorly worded, but might make sense if interpreted to be about cheating and not sexual assault.

Re: I'm 34. Here's 34 things I wish I knew at 21

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Post by aipatselarom »

elliotmy wrote: post #47
kibbul4 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author telling on himself here

Hi there – author of the post here. I included this quite intentionally. I consider rape and sexual assault to be one of the worst things one human can do to another – just behind murder and torture. And yet society is littered with it. Ask any woman (and some men), she'll more than likely have a story. And it should be obvious: don't sexually hurt people! I _shouldn't_ need to include this in a simple list of rules…

The issue is not if it's a good/bad thing. We all know that.

The issue is that is neither common nor a natural thing for men to "struggle not to rape someone" as much as you think it is. While your intentions might be good, and I do believe that, it reads like some sort of freudian slip.

Imagine if someone wrote "hey guys, let's be honest, I don't really like this thing of urinating on your food before eating, can we just agree to stop doing that :)".

You wouldn't think "oh what a sensible comment, finally someone has the balls to talk about it", no, you would just :O and think the guy is crazy ...

Re: I'm 34. Here's 34 things I wish I knew at 21

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Post by fao_ »

tosser0001 wrote: post #39
fao_ wrote: post #8

> One day – probably somewhere between 28 and 38 – you'll wake up and just feel 'off'. A bit sore. A bit tired. That feeling will never leave you. Be grateful for your youth while you have it. This happened when I was 20. I don't know what else to say other than, it fucking sucks.

I wonder how true this really is if you make an reasonable effort to keep yourself in shape. It wasn't until I hit 60 that I felt unquestionably different, and even then it wasn't terrible.

At the time I was walking about 4 miles every day for years both uphill and downhill. Around the same time as me waking up exhausted, the walks became harder and harder for no apparent reason until I eventually just couldn't do it anymore. No doctor I've met has been interested in diagnosing why, because "lol you just need to get fit".
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